Linux has made significant strides, and in 2023, it’s better than ever. However, there are still individuals perpetuating a delusion: that desktop Linux is as user-friendly and productive as its mainstream counterparts. After a few discussions on Lemmy, I believe it’s important to provide a clear review of where Linux falls short as a daily driver for average users.

EDIT: can I just make it clear I don’t agree with this article one bit and think it’s an unhinged polemic?

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    There us so much wrong with this article. From installing a removeding browser via flatpack, over ignoring the fact that office 365 is a thing to the fact that there are alternatives to Adobe.

    Sure, not everything is perfect right now, and people have to learn new stuff.

    I have migrated multiple people to fedora in the last two years. And guess what, regardless of type or age of user, they had no troubles with it to this day. They use gimp, play, have browsers with password managers, and write office documents. Yes. MS office.

    Articles like this are one reason why people hesitate to make the switch. Doompainting, that’s all it is.

    And what the hell are you talking about vrr? Kde, sway and hyperland support it for years now under wayland. Gnome still does not have it, but that is gnome.

    And if more distributions would not per default use gnome, such misconceptions wouldn’t exist in the first place.

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        Factual reasons for this please. Besides the horrible, privacy braking, AI stuff, what can photoshop do that gimp can not?

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          If you are professional you use what your colleagues are using. You can’t have 8 people in photoshop and 1 person in Gimp. You are not going to get a studio to flip over to gimp if they are a Photoshop house because it will cost a lot of time and money. Especially not larger operations.

          Individual freelancers? Sure. Industry capture? Way more difficult.

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            This is a reason, but it has nothing to do with alternatives. It would still hold true if you have 8 gimp and one photoshop users

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                  Well yeah, we are talking about what causes adoption. You have to incentivize people. Maybe it’s cost. Maybe it’s feature sets. Maybe it’s being FOSS. The point is people don’t change their professional software lightly. Production houses even less so.

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                    The problem with this is that GIMP doesn’t aim, or have the funding to be more than just a Photoshop clone, so at best it will be as good as PS but for free. That won’t help you convince people already making money from their work using PS, but maybe given enough time and some advertisement people who are new to image manipulation will start learning how to use GIMP instead of Photoshop.

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              Wrong: this is the only thing that matters, the rest is wishful thinking and delusions.

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                So, if you are in a company that uses Gimp, and you want to use PS, it is still gimp’s fault that this will not work?

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                  I guess it depends on how likely that company interacts with external people who use PS. The problem is that PS is the industry’s standard and if you go against it and things break your fault.

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                    Windows is an industry standard. And so is office. As long as we treat it as such. If we want things to change we have to go against such standards.

                    The big difference between Office and Photoshop is: Microsoft opened their file format. And has support for open standards.

                    Adobe locked their eco system down to build a monopoly. This is not gimps fault. It is 100% on Adobe.

                    While the outcome is the same, I would love to see a different wording: nothing is an alternative to Photoshop, because Adobe has a monopoly.

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          Collaboration with other Adobe users? Same thing with Office. If one lives in a bubble and doesn’t to collaborate with others then native Linux apps might work and might even deliver a decent workflow. Once you’ve to collaborate with others who use Windows/Mac it’s game over – the “alternatives” aren’t just up to it.

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          Factual will be relative, and no matter what I say you’ll find a way to turn this into a fight.

          What other apps compete with photoshop besides gimp?

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            You started with “gimp is removed”, so why not provide reasons for it?

            Or is this the apple vs android, coffee vs tea, stick vs automatic kind of subjective argument?

            What other products on windows compete with photoshop in your opinion? I don’t get your reason>!!<

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                Nope. That’s called the burden of proof. You started by saying “gimp is removed”, it’s up to you to prove it, it’s not up to the people responding you to disprove your point of view. What you’re doing right now is called a fallacy and just totally discredit yourself.

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                  No. Im asking for alternatives, and then saying my opinion is that gimp is removed.

                  Making excuses for not answering my question is pretty lame. If I answer you, you won’t answer me. You’ll just attack my opinions and leave. No thanks lol

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                The answer is simple, Gimp is the only “full featured” photoshop replacement. And the os doesn’t matter for this. There is no alternative in windows besides gimp. Apples products also fall short.

                And now, why is gimp removed?

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                    You see, I answered your question. Now, where is the answer you promised? Let me guess, you don’t have any?

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            Well there is light room, and the more expensive Photoshop online.

            They now offer an online version of maybe full Photoshop. Tho no idea what is included.