Hello everyone! I know that Linux GUI advanced in last few years but we still lack some good system configuration tools for advanced users or sysadmins. What utilities you miss on Linux? And is there any normal third party alternatives?

  • Eugenia@lemmy.mlEnglish
    63·
    6 days ago

    I personally would like a systemd gui. There have been several attempts in the past, but none is maintained.

    • notabot@lemm.ee
      61·
      6 days ago

      SystemD is far too much of a poorly thought through mess to have anything like a sane GUI configuration, it doesn’t even have a sane textfile based configuration. We’re going to have to wait fir SystemD to crumble under it’s own weight and be replaced with multiple, simple, cleanly designed components before we have any hope of a sane config again. Sort of like we used to have before a certain someone/some company (depending on how conspiratorial you’re feeling) decided to come along and muck it all up.

      /rant

      Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk Rant. You may gather I dislike SystemD quite a lot.

    • Ephera@lemmy.mlEnglish
      61·
      6 days ago

      On openSUSE, I’ve apparently got at least this thing for looking at SystemD services:

      Allows viewing the services for the different boot targets, as well as the service files. You can also start/stop services or change their start mode (on boot vs manual).

      Well, and there’s a JournalD viewer with filtering:

      Not the most developed GUIs, but…

    • ubergeek@lemmy.todayEnglish
      3·
      6 days ago

      Its far too convoluted. A systemd gui for… DNS? Boot services? User Services? tmp file management? Everything?

      • oldfart@lemm.ee
        2·
        5 days ago

        Everything! And a virt-manager like tool for nspawn! And for the faux-cron jobs! Make it as byzantine as systemd itself

      • Eugenia@lemmy.mlEnglish
        31·
        6 days ago

        That’s the point. That systemd is convoluted, so a gui could help. And yes, for everything. :)

        • ubergeek@lemmy.todayEnglish
          4·
          6 days ago

          My point is there is no way to sanely create a GUI for something has it’s tendrils in… Everything. In fact, there’s no sane way to do any sort of UI for such a beast.

        • catloaf@lemm.eeEnglish
          31·
          6 days ago

          Maybe the system should be made less convoluted.

          I mean, do we really need a half dozen network management services, all broken in their own way and none that do everything you need?