Hello everyone,
After a discussion on !fedigrow@lemm.ee ( https://feddit.org/post/6950586 ), a few people interested in privacy decided to reopen !privacy@lemmy.dbzer0.com as an alternative to !privacy@lemmy.ml .
It’s also nice to have a privacy community on an instance that can be accessed via VPNs.
Feel free to join us there!
I’m deeply concerned about their anticrypto discussion stance. Digital fungible money is a key component of any privacy discussion.
Many privacy focused services accept payments in crypto, such as vpns, web hosting, email services, etc
Not being able to discuss this axis of digital exposure is antithetical to a healthy discourse about privacy.
Hello @db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com @unruffled@lemmy.dbzer0.com, could you please clarify?
From what I understood, promoting privacy services which allow to pay in crypto is OK, but not to promote cryptocurrencies themselves?
I’m ok with people promoting services which accept cryptocurrencies (hell, Lemmy itself accepts crypto donations). However promoting cryptocurrencies itself is a no-no in our instance.
Also: Crypto is a not private. The blockchain is public.
Not necessarily true for all ledgers, such as monero.
https://www.getmonero.org/get-started/faq/#anchor-different
Monero users can and have been deanonymized by the police. Monero also acts as a de-facto tumbler, meaning by using it, you’re money laundering for criminals as a matter of course.
Necessarily true for Monero. Theirs is public too, freely available for anyone to download and analyze. The rest of your response did not refute this. An honest response might have been “transactions are public, but…” and you could have laid out your rebuttal, but denying a fact and following it up with irrelevant PR does not make me more confident in the project.
That, and the simple explanation that evangelizing Monero has a perverse incentive I hadn’t even considered (it benefits money launderers in addition to speculators) makes me trust it all the less.
I’m not trying to defend monero here, but the ability to have a conversation about such things.
My core complaint still stands, digital fungible money is part of the privacy conversation. Especially threat modeling for people.
Personally it’s okay with me. Feel free to have a look at the previous thread (https://feddit.org/post/6950586), but long story short
Lemmy.dbzer0 has a very good record of stability and management. If we need to discuss crypto in a dedicated discussion, why not. To be fair, I expect some backlash of any pro-crypto discussions in a general privacy community anyway.