Hey everyone,

This isn’t an announcement, just wanted peoples thoughts on this.

I think everyone knows searching the fediverse can be better. Googling doesn’t work too well, etc. So I wanted to do my part and help out.

Indexing all posts, etc is quite a lot to handle, so I wanted to start small and just focus on video search. I’ve started indexing videos from Peertube and other video websites. (Even YouTube but this could be removed to just focus on independent sites)

I know Peertube has their own search engine for videos. I will be reaching out to them. Compared to my site I’m planning it’ll have other video sources and be easier to use.

So that leads to feedback from you guys.

  • What do you think about indexing videos posted on the fediverse and other independent platforms?
  • Are there similar services?
  • Am I just wasting my time?
  • gabe [he/him]@literature.cafeEnglish
    74·
    11 months ago

    That’s not how the fediverse functions and approaching it that way is a problem waiting to happen. I’m stating so as a warning to be mindful of the culture of the way the fediverse itself functions. This is not Reddit, we share the fediverse with other software with different uses and features and we need to be mindful of that especially when building these kinds of tools. Making it opt out not only places a burden on smaller instances but presents a potential harassment risk for instances with vulnerable people on other fediverse platforms. As well, it is contrary to the entire way specific other activitypub instances operate. The fediverse is like a city we share with others, if Lemmy is not mindful of that city’s culture then people will promptly give them the boot.

    I’m not saying user by user opt in either, but instance by instance. Lemmy needs a tool of archiving especially. There is already cultural clashes I see occurring with the rest of the fediverse. Post like these of potential tools when it seems like the creator doesn’t know the messy history behind previous projects like them in the fediverse make me fearful of the clashes coming to fruition.

    • lautan@lemmy.caOPEnglish
      13·
      11 months ago

      Well that’s why I’m asking for input. And I won’t launch this on every instance without letting them know. Baby steps.

      • Kierunkowy74@kbin.social
        4·
        11 months ago

        Mastodon since 4.2 version supports allows its users to opt into appearing into search results. Just respect this flag with Mastodon users, and you will be fine, IMHO

      • gabe [he/him]@literature.cafeEnglish
        54·
        11 months ago

        My matrix is open if you want/are actually interested in doing this in a way that won’t make the rest of the fediverse flip removed. I support this tools creation especially for lemmy, but if it isn’t done the right way it’ll be received poorly. Making it behave differently on lemmy compared to other software as well might be an idea too.

    • Scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.techEnglish
      82·
      11 months ago

      But ActivityPub already publishes all of the data out. I don’t think this is going out to servers asking for data, it’s listening to public data being broadcasted out. If people are broadcasting over activitypub then they’re okay with it being shared.

      If they don’t want it shared then they don’t have to publish ActivityPub to anyone. They can defederate from the search federation. Those tools already exist.

    • 0x1C3B00DA@kbin.social
      31·
      11 months ago

      That’s not how the fediverse functions

      That is how the fediverse functions. Instances send posts to anyone who request it, unless a block is in place. ActivityPub is opt-out and the web has always worked this way.

      be mindful of the culture

      There is no “the culture” on the fediverse. Your talking about a subgroup, which has a different opinion from other subgroups. They don’t get to define “culture” on the fediverse.