Shamelessly copied from a post on a Lemmy look alike site :)

  • Bonehead@kbin.social
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    10 months ago

    For a guy like that, it was never about money. He knew that would come in comfortable enough amounts. For him, it was about being the smartest person in the room. And 90% of the time, he is. And he lets you know.

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      10 months ago

      Perhaps I’m confused. I’ve never seen or heard Torvalds act in the manner you describe. In interviews, and talks, at least, I’ve seen him be quite self-deprecating, quite deferential, and quite humble. He just doesn’t put up with bullremoved in the space he knows extremely well, and he’s very direct with little regard to being empathetic, or at least that’s how he’s acted in the past on the Linux mailing lists. Being matter-of-fact can often be misconstrued as acting superior, but I’ve found it’s usually a time-saving personality quirk.

      Edit>> Clearly this guy is unable to understand what being matter of fact is and resorts to ad hominem when someone doesn’t share his opinion. Sad, really, but pretty normal for the internet, I suppose. Oh well.

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          10 months ago

          Right, this happens with me all the time (though I suppose I don’t require the use of swear words, but I do use them quite a bit, just not when speaking professionally). People take my matter-of-fact personality as being arrogant. I’m really not, or I actually try not to be, but I can understand how things can come across when not mincing words. I suspect Torvalds doesn’t like making useless small talk, either, which is a trait of this kind of personality. I can wholly relate to that and how people might perceive him. But I do not feel, as the person I replied to had written, Torvalds “lets you know” that he’s “the smartest person in the room” in any instance I’ve ever seen him speak.

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            10 months ago

            I get involved later on and say: ‘Christ this is horribly ugly code, how could you ever accept this?’

            That’s a direct example of him acting like the smartest man in the room, and letting you know, straight from the link that was provided. He’s most likely right, but there are ways of stating that diplomatically. That’s not matter-of-fact, that’s just being arrogant. If you can’t see that, and you also find that people consider you arrogant, maybe you should consider talking to a professional about that.

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                10 months ago

                My case in point. That wasn’t an ad hominem, that was genuine advice. You admitted yourself that people find you arrogant. If this is affecting your life, you should consider talking to someone about it. Especially since you just accused me of something, and then immediately did the exact thing you accused me of doing. This isn’t a competition, this is genuine advice. Please consider it.

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                  10 months ago

                  Yes it was. Trying to sugar coat it doesn’t change that fact. We’re done here.

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                    10 months ago

                    Not everything is an attack. You can interpret things however you want, but you’re the only one that has to deal with the consequences. I wish you good luck…