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My ThinkPad is working extremely well for almost 7 years now, and currently mass downloading files using JDownloader Flatpak on Debian 12 GNOME.
It works with every DE, but KDE eats my CPU alive at 70%, and without compositor and eyecandy, 15% idle. XFCE and LXQt had 0.5% CPU idle, and GNOME stays around 0.5-1% idle. Heck, even my 13 year old dinosaur desktop with 2nd gen i3 works perfectly with Debian 12 GNOME, exact same setup.
Maybe, maybe KDE is at fault?
Look, I wrote a Linux/Windows computing guide. I consider myself stupid, but I am not THAT stupid. https://lemmy.ml/post/511377
I called you a fanboy because you cannot fathom how poor KDE performance can be. 7200U is a modern laptop CPU, and one of the most famous CPUs ever to be used by masses, so the optimisation argument for it and its iGPU Intel HD 620 goes out of the window.
Uh huh. No fanboying on your part at all. Projection?
Once again, I will send you a video later today of KDE plasma running on my 1GHz single core potato (a much slower CPU than yours) to prove that Plasma can perform. Hey, maybe I’ll also run GNOME on it for you for comparison purposes. Note that I don’t inherently have a problem with GNOME, as I don’t have the mentality that “KDE is for KGrownups”.
Because I feel like with childish statements like the one above, you’re not exactly being 100% truthful. But I can back up my argument with evidence.
Uh huh. No fanboying on your part at all. Projection?
No, just facts over feelings. GNOME is widely regarded as far more professional than KDE, and the polished end result shows everytime. GNOME2 was peak Linux back in the day, and now GNOME 40+ is peak Linux if you actually want to get work done and have a simple interface with the best workflow.
Because I feel like with childish statements like the one above, you’re not exactly being 100% truthful. But I can back up my argument with evidence.
This comment section, as well as on Reddit and other “community” places like 4chan are filled with toxic KDE fanboys removedting on GNOME, while GNOME users never say anything. KDE deserves to be shat on for being an unprofessional hacky mess, because GNOME has proven its might time and time again in that regard.
Also I tested multiple DEs last year, so I know I am not lying. Maybe you missed that guide there. KDE runs like crap on most machines. GNOME is just too well optimised with all the eyecandy.
I do not need you to benchmark those for me, because I did it for myself thoroughly, and have enough experience to teach both Linux and Windows users how to do computing. Maybe do not try to teach a teacher?
Also just checked out your “computing guide” (which is just a loose collection of info and recommendations more than a guide), and lol’d at this paragraph [brackets mine]:
F(L)OSS means Free (Libre) Open Source software, and it means that the software is freeware [eh, no? FLOSS can be paid], AND the source code that are building blocks of software, are available openly and freely for modification, reverse engineering, compilation and studying purposes. The correct way to say it, as Richard Stallman says, is FLOSS and not FOSS. [I’m fairly sure if you ask Stallman he’ll completely reject “Open Source” all together]
My ThinkPad is working extremely well for almost 7 years now, and currently mass downloading files using JDownloader Flatpak on Debian 12 GNOME.
It works with every DE, but KDE eats my CPU alive at 70%, and without compositor and eyecandy, 15% idle. XFCE and LXQt had 0.5% CPU idle, and GNOME stays around 0.5-1% idle. Heck, even my 13 year old dinosaur desktop with 2nd gen i3 works perfectly with Debian 12 GNOME, exact same setup.
Maybe, maybe KDE is at fault?
Look, I wrote a Linux/Windows computing guide. I consider myself stupid, but I am not THAT stupid. https://lemmy.ml/post/511377
I called you a fanboy because you cannot fathom how poor KDE performance can be. 7200U is a modern laptop CPU, and one of the most famous CPUs ever to be used by masses, so the optimisation argument for it and its iGPU Intel HD 620 goes out of the window.
Uh huh. No fanboying on your part at all. Projection?
Once again, I will send you a video later today of KDE plasma running on my 1GHz single core potato (a much slower CPU than yours) to prove that Plasma can perform. Hey, maybe I’ll also run GNOME on it for you for comparison purposes. Note that I don’t inherently have a problem with GNOME, as I don’t have the mentality that “KDE is for KGrownups”.
Because I feel like with childish statements like the one above, you’re not exactly being 100% truthful. But I can back up my argument with evidence.
No, just facts over feelings. GNOME is widely regarded as far more professional than KDE, and the polished end result shows everytime. GNOME2 was peak Linux back in the day, and now GNOME 40+ is peak Linux if you actually want to get work done and have a simple interface with the best workflow.
This comment section, as well as on Reddit and other “community” places like 4chan are filled with toxic KDE fanboys removedting on GNOME, while GNOME users never say anything. KDE deserves to be shat on for being an unprofessional hacky mess, because GNOME has proven its might time and time again in that regard.
Also I tested multiple DEs last year, so I know I am not lying. Maybe you missed that guide there. KDE runs like crap on most machines. GNOME is just too well optimised with all the eyecandy.
I do not need you to benchmark those for me, because I did it for myself thoroughly, and have enough experience to teach both Linux and Windows users how to do computing. Maybe do not try to teach a teacher?
KDE Plasma on a laptop whose hardware was crap when it came out in 2009, running fine:
https://drive.proton.me/urls/R5SPEKY1VG#yzKAoNQxSjXc
GNOME, slightly sluggish:
https://drive.proton.me/urls/7JD8899CH8#NlXG8uZpm0Cd
Also just checked out your “computing guide” (which is just a loose collection of info and recommendations more than a guide), and lol’d at this paragraph [brackets mine]: