• shirro@aussie.zone
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      5 months ago

      I like silent laptops but sometimes I want to max out the power budget and get work done without worrying about thermal throttling. Having a fan and customizable power settings gives users a choice. Apple takes that choice away.

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        5 months ago

        Installing a fan negatively impacts the passive cooling ability (at the absolute least by taking space that could be occupied by a bigger radiator and by obstructing the airflow), so it’s always a tradeoff.

        Apple wanted to make it passively cooled, and it wouldn’t be possible at decent loads if a fan would be installed alongside passive cooler.

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          5 months ago

          I have a 2021 Asus Zephyrus G14 unless I run a game, that thing is running without active cooling. Seems like a solved problem.

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            5 months ago

            Solved for larger laptops.

            Macbooks are significantly slimmer, and have way less internal space that could be used to make a combined cooling system that would be passive most of the time.

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              The G14 is 14 inch and has a dedicated GPU, so without one the cooling requirements are far less.

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      I see it more of a limitation, you don’t want your laptop to warm (and it shouldn’t in light use), but you want to cool it for the few times it does.

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        Not necessarily. I own a passively cooled x86 laptop that runs just fine without throttling - granted, it’s based on Celeron series CPU, but when we talk of ARM laptops, we normally don’t talk powerful machines - Macs are rather an exception.