• Zombie@feddit.uk
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    4 months ago

    Signal only delivers a promise that their E2EE will be enough to make the information govts get useless.

    Signal do more than just a promise. Their encryption techniques are available to see. You can confirm if it’s enough protection for you or not. Telegram are the ones making a promise. I’m not saying they’ve broken their promise (as evidenced by the arrest).

    But it is just a promise when Telegram still has the ability to see messages. Signal can’t see messages and therefore don’t have to rely on a promise that can be broken (willingly or not). They instead rely on encryption, which appears to be far stronger than any promise could be.

    For all we know, this is performative and the French government already has access to Telegram’s servers and can see everything. If they have access to Signal’s, oh well, they can’t see removed.

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      Telegram are the ones making a promise. I’m not saying they’ve broken their promise (as evidenced by the arrest).

      The fact that govts go after them kinda validates the promise. Unlike Signal.

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        It validates that governments can see what’s happening on Telegram, and that makes Telegram a target.

        They can’t go after the likes of Signal because they have very little to go on in the first place. They can’t say definitively what’s happening there as they can’t see any messages. Unlike Telegram.

        It’s not a conspiracy that Signal are compromised, so they’re being ignored. They’re being ignored because there’s nothing to see, so governments might as well spend resources going after the apps where information is visible instead. At least they might get a result. E2EE apps are too difficult.

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          (Properly implemented E2EE is too difficult at the moment but those are some big caveats. Still: didn’t use Telegram.)