High suicide rate is connected to men more likely to have access to guns

High male suicide rates happen even without access to guns.

The idea of “the male loneliness epidemic” is meme that just generates tons of clicks and engagement. It’s not real.

Show me your receipts.

For the work place it’s again a problem of gender expectations.

You don’t think it’s internal drivers? That man are driven to perform internally and externally?

Men are actually more likely to get custody of they ask for it.

how should women help with male loneliness?

I wasn’t insinuating that women should help with male loneliness. I don’t think women have the answer here.

With the entire context, there IS a wage gap.

Which I included in my post. No context missed, glad we cleared that up.

next time a woman you know complains their male coworker makes more go ahead and tell her to work more, I bet she’ll just love that.

No, I’d tell her to lawyer up because the business better have a legal reason.

Also, the part of the paper you’ve cherry picked suits your narrative

Yes, I chose the part of the paper that supported my argument.

So what? Is it out of context? Nope.

The point you’ve made here seems to be … if anyone wants to make money you have to give up your life to do so.

You literally sell your time (life) to get money. That is what a wage is. Want more money? Sell more time.

I’m not saying that is a bad or good thing. I’m stating straight facts.

Ah yes, being a reasonable, empathetic member of society. “BoOtStRaPs!!1!”

The majority of lads are growing up without father figures, and yet we expect them to be functional males once they are adults.

If that’s not bootstraps, then I don’t know what is.

Being a fascist isn’t going to fix that

I never claimed that was a viable choice.

I’m a depressed male, I have attended therapy, I have talked with those close to me, I have been in dark times, and I’m hella lonely.

Then you of all people should know that there’s not much out there that is going to help you get to the next level. Imagine a world where you never had to go through dark times, or attend therapy, because the way you were brought up prepared you for those times. And gave you the emotional tools to navigate support networks.

Imagine stability.

In addition to being less likely than men to say they are currently the boss or a top manager at work, women are also more likely to say they wouldn’t want to be in this type of position in the future. More than four-in-ten employed women (46%) say this, compared with 37% of men. Similar shares of men (35%) and women (31%) say they are not currently the boss but would like to be one day. These patterns are similar among parents.

The wage gap exists because women have reasonable expectations for work-life balance (one reason). Men are culturally expected to rise and grind.

This isn’t the win that wage gap enthusiasts think it is. It’s essentially saying:

Wanna get paid more? Be a corporate whore.

these men need to communicate better

They need to …

They need to …

They need to …

There’s those bootstraps I was talking about.

… from my perspective.

Did … did you even read my post? What is going on?

Let me re-write it using your analogy.

Why not both? Food for minorities and food for majorities.

This isn’t a zero sum game.

If the majorities repeatedly votes for … a large detriment to everyone else

I never argued for this. It is possible to vote in a commensalistic manner.

• high suicide rate
• male loneliness has always been terrible and it’s on the rise
• 19 out of 20 deaths at the work place are men
• most likely to have poor work-life balance
• most likely to be imprisoned
• most likely to be homeless
• most likely to NOT get custody of the kids they love

Pretty excellent, aye? These men just need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps.

No, all Trump supporters are fascists.

Fair, but this left-right / men-women divide isn’t just an American issue. Take another look at the OP image.

This just in: all men are fascists.

being gay is more accepted.

Fair. A win for all.

there’s also much less pressure to conform to masculine standards. e.g., being able to talk about feelings

Not the wider experience. Men are still stigmatised for expressing themselves. Example: how often do men get to be emotionally vulnerable in a public setting compared to women?

joining in traditionally feminine careers like nursing/teaching

This is flat out wrong, it’s actually getting worse.

https://www.unesco.org/en/articles/gender-equality-and-through-teaching-profession

Sex ratios in healthcare occupations: population based study.

they also haven’t used the draft in 50 years

That’s because there are enough men who are financially destitute, who sell their lives into the military.

Don’t need a draft when there is enough blood money going around.

white supremacy and bring it behind the shed.

Fair.

So, this is the predicament for men:

Why not both? Benefit to minorities and benefit to majorities.

This isn’t a zero sum game.

Why not both? Benefit to women, and benefit to men.

This isn’t a zero sum game.

Correct. Why would anyone go for a worse option for themselves?

Edit: A benefit to one group does not mean a detriment to others. This is not a zero sum game.

The funny thing is that the left could offer so many things for men:

• address mental health issues
• paternal leave / support for fatherhood
• Less dangerous work
• rehabilitation in prisons
• a free lamborghini
• address homelessness

All of which are mostly men issues.

This data is the World world, not just “America world”.

Also, if men are going right, then the left needs to step up their offering.

My brother in Christ, this isn’t about the money. This is about meeting business deadlines. OP can’t be using time trying to figure out something on Linux when his clients are waiting.

His first clients are also going to be where his solo practice either sinks or swims.