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i mean it depends on how you define common, common among the world populous? No, common among fabrication types? Yes.

there are only a few things that are common amongst the whole human population, and none of them are learned skills. (learned as in learned from the ground up, to be able to do that one specific thing I.E. socialization doesn’t count as it’s a fundamental aspect of humanity)

i think there is a fundamental reason why linux is a good operating system. It’s the same reason that vehicles from the 70s and 80s are so beloved, because they’re easy to repair. Hell you could probably rebuild one in your garage, sure you’d need some level of knowledge to do so. But it’s all out there, and very easy to access, and same for the parts.

I think linux is very similar in this regard, part of what makes it so good, is being so familiar with it. Windows doesn’t let you do this, because it doesn’t want you to. Linux does, because you’re supposed to, and i would argue that telling people linux is a “turn key” solution is rather irresponsible when inevitably, they’ll want to do something weird or have to fix a weird problem which will require them to go digging around somewhere.

I also don’t think the basic concepts of linux are all that complicated, two weeks and a vm to install arch and you’ve got most of the foundational concepts in your head already.

i see no problem with that. You can’t go learn to weld without putting in lots of effort and time learning.

It’s really just that simple.

because redhat smelly.

Also fedora is hella configured out of the box, which is nice for new users, and a good reason to just use it. But at that point i think you should just use something like debian while figuring out how to properly do the whole linux thing because it’s going to positively benefit you quite a bit.

yeah, linux has me spoiled, just being able to do whatever i want as i please is truly a modern art.

Android made me realize how incredible linux was by being so utterly painful.

Rule of thumb for android users, all of the interesting removed is removed you can’t do unless you’re rooted.

this is the most useful thing android will ever do.

Once rooted.

uhm, well you can’t primarily because android is a hot mess (quick note: this is mostly me ranting about the hell that android is for no removeding reason)

First of all, android only supports MDNS since android 12 and newer, MANY years after the standard was even finalized and put into use. (like a concerning amount) And yes, you can technically use that networking on a per app level (since android 6 or 8 i think), if it’s implemented, but most apps don’t because they’re android apps. And the ones that do are basically useless (very cool thanks android)

Ignoring this, let’s say that you have a samba server, and have a local DNS config setup to get around the MDNS bullremoved. Oops, funny story, android doesn’t natively support SMB shares, because apparently they aren’t real and don’t removeding exist. Now to be clear, most file managers do actually support SMB, the problem here is that those are often removed, and only supported in the actual file manager itself. If you wanted to per se, mount a samba share on android on the FS level, it is either impossible, or REQUIRES ROOT ACCESS.

Man it’s a good thing rooting is easy, and not super convoluted, or risks bricking your phone in the event that it’s designed like utter removed and cannot recover from being flashed incorrectly. (to be clear, i don’t know removed about rooting, because it’s a removeding disaster, and i might be misrepresenting it here, but only rooting, everything else is accurate)

so basically, cool story, the only option here that you have is using apps that are specifically designed to implement their own file transfer functionalities and protocols. There is one redeeming factor to this, and it’s the fact that rsync exists, and that it isn’t removed, but rsync isn’t samba, so eat removed android. Rest in piss you disaster of an OS.

it’s a rather weird concept, but it makes sense. If you want to standardize, let’s say, threaded hardware across the continental US that you would inherently need to do away with any closed standards, assuming you want it to actually work, and along with that, whatever you settle on, needs to be open.

You could theoretically do this with closed source, but the problem here is that there will be someone that comes along and does it with open source, and if it’s better, you’re removeded. And if it’s equal, and cheaper, you’re removeded. And if it’s marginally worse, but trivial to adopt, you’re removeded.

yeah, the general rule of thumb seems to be that if it’s universal, it needs to be open. The farther niche it goes, the less open it has to be, on principle of utility. Open standards are only good people it’s so easy for them to get accepted. That’s why closed standards often just don’t go very far.

Now the vast majority of phones run open source Android.

to be fair, this was almost certainly a reaction to the iphone. Still open, so there’s that.

Seems like the cycle is either:

• someone has a good idea, it’s open source.
• someone has a good idea, it’s closed source, someone else makes something similar, but open source.

considering that this is a bsd user, yeah makes sense.

Coming from a self hoster, removeds up when it’s up. Otherwise it’s down.

I charge nothing and you expect no guarantees of service :)

yeah and technically containers aren’t native either? They do run natively on the kernel of the existing machine, but the environment around them is entirely manufactured.

ChromeOS itself isn’t even clear about whether it’s a VM or a container, it says it’s both.

My problem here isn’t that you can run android apps on linux, or vice versa, my problem here is that android and linux are two fundamentally different systems, this is like putting a 13inch tire on a car that normally uses 21s. It’ll “technically” work, but good luck getting around at any effective pace.

exactly! It’s such a loose definition, even though it fits none of the standard modes of operation for linux. If something that broadly not linux counts as linux, we might as well count BSD as a subset of linux, even though it’s completely different.

you say bad example, yet you literally have to jump through hoops to do it. I think it’s a bad removeding distro of linux, if it requires you to setup and configure and entire removeding container system in order to run non google approved applications, specifically those that debian hosts, because i’m not sure it lets you run other containers.

Chrome OS and Android may use the Linux kernel but they’ll never be Linux

yes, my point here is that android is linux in the same way that you can install blender on chromeos using an entire secondary system, and bullremoved containerization, while i can just tell my package manager to install it, and it removeding installs it. And then i can just removeding open it.

By this logic windows is also a removeding linux system because you can use WSL on it.

cons:

• has to enable linux containers
• can’t use native filesystem for emulated applications because it’s a completely different environment
• potential for performance issues given that it’s literally a non standard environment
• wastes a bunch of disk space
• requires an entire secondary system to be maintained and updated

pros:

• can technically run linux applications

android is not the linux phone.

The chromebook would the desktop linux workstation if that were true.

Go install blender on a chromebook, i’ll wait.

the age of the linux phone is approaching. People keeping saying it isn’t they’re wrong, i don’t know why they think otherwise.

i like this, this is good.

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