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  • As far as I understand, this isn’t quite right (unless it’s changed recently).

    If A defeds B, then A no longer sends new posts to B, accepts comments or posts from B users, or receives new posts from B. Any comments from B users on A’s old posts (made before defederation) are no longer acknowledged by A.

    I think A users can still interact with B’s posts, but then I haven’t seen any beehaw users in forever. So perhaps not?

    C can obviously still interact with both A and B posts normally. On posts from C, both A and B users can still interact.

    So, in short defederation creates a hard wall preventing interaction between A and B. The only way A and B users can interact is on C.

    It’s unfortunate as beehaw would have benefitted from a uni-directional defederation (i.e. preventing .world users from posting on beehaw, but not preventing .beehaw users from posting on .world. Unfortunately, it’s both.)



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    Eh, I’m not sure addressing it at the same time is as helpful as it seems.

    People have limited bandwidth and energy. Better to rally them to supporting climate action targeting companies, which has the knock on effect of influencing people’s personal climate responsibility. (e.g. if you put a carbon/GHG tax and include the meat industry, then all of a sudden veggie/vegan alternatives are a lot cheaper and people end up buying them without having to personally and collectively motivate themselves.)

    Edit: at this point I’m beginning to think that people arguing for consumer responsibility as equally or even more important than legal regulation on emitters are at best useful idiots propping up polluting industries or at worse bad faith actors.


  • But the average person does not care enough.

    Can you point to examples where this has worked to change mass social behaviour where it hasn’t been underpinned by laws or regulation or taken multiple generations to achieve?

    We need change now. Targeting companies is the only way to change things now - not some years down the line when eventually we get every common person to understand that taking on hardship voluntarily is prevents collective hardship even more years down the line.