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I am not in favor of transitive property defederation either but Meta will make similar demands if they are allowed to be an influencer in the fedi as well. I’d rather that everyone just decides to defederate threads independently
I am not in favor of transitive property defederation either but Meta will make similar demands if they are allowed to be an influencer in the fedi as well. I’d rather that everyone just decides to defederate threads independently
It’s federated but not really decentralized. I don’t know if it’s planned down the road to be interoperable with servers that don’t rely on its master server for identity or not.
Can we get the ability to browse another instances local feed while signed in to our home instance? Feel like it would be better to discover smaller communities that way
Wasn’t that @PoppinKREAM@sh.itjust.works?
He was here around the API debacle, don’t know if that’s his actual account or whether he’s still active here
I appreciate your perspective but will have to respectfully disagree.
My position has evolved as I’ve spent more time as a user in the fediverse and federated protocols such as ActivityPub. The fediverse needs to stay purpose-driven, and not profit-driven. I just don’t see how a for-profit entity can be good stewards of the protocol, their priorities cannot begin or end with anything but return on investment. Even if they were to provide some seed money to other fediverse projects. If their users never migrate to not-for-profit providers, if they never fully federate the other direction, if they fork AP instead of sticking to spec; have we gained anything by federating with them?
Sure seems like by federating with Meta, we just are allowing them to co-opt AP as their version of Bluesky’s ATProto. Those of us on AP that aren’t on threads just become the “data privacy zealots” that aren’t @threads.net and are fenced off from the rest of the network by default. Not unlike the people running their own PDS on bluesky. Federated but not decentralized, isn’t the mission of the fediverse IMO.
But this still begs the opposite question, have we gained anything by de-federating with threads? I sure hope my ideals of a not-for-profit social web, are not as pie-in-the-sky as they seem.
I have totally deleted all my Reddit contributions (still squatting on the username) and so I can’t really answer whether mentioning lemmy gets your comment shadow banned. We don’t really need more redditors, just need to wait for the first scandal and people will start googling “Reddit” alternatives (which ironically are all Reddit threads) and Lemmy is at the top of most of those lists. People should come here organically
“Mastodon” is essentially a front end application for ActivityPub. Nobody controls “Mastodon” other than the developers who can’t control who federates from whom.
“Deleting Mastodon” isn’t going to help you, instead see if your instance is a member of Fedipact. If your instance shows in the list as blocked or limited, then you are fine
That’s the problem. I can see a future where very few users and trolls “opt-in” to fediverse integration and for a while meta doesn’t rock the boat and actually contributes to the fediverse as a whole.
But Zuck would have us under ransom. All he has to do, if the fediverse starts threatening his business is turn on all accounts for federation, and it would quickly overwhelm the small independent operators. The fediverse would essentially be controlled by meta.
It’s the parable of the frog and the scorpion
Maybe you guys are getting downvoted for conflating Lemmy on the fediverse as a whole with Lemmy.World.
These actions don’t affect anyone not on Lemmy.world, assuming db0 federates with you, !piracy is still there for you
Great thing about the fediverse is that you have options when admin/moderation actions occur that you don’t agree with. If Reddit were to remove /r/piracy then we’d have no recourse
If a user mutes an instance you still have to worry about a poorly moderated instance that federates illegal or harmful content to yours or worry about harassment to other users,etc.
Defederating should not be used nonchalantly but it has its place.
From what I’ve been told it’s only query-able from the db and not from the API
Yeah that take wouldn’t get you banned from lemmygrad, surprised they didn’t make him a mod for that take tbh
I absolutely agree with everything in this post, I’m am just now learning about this but I’m really disappointed to hear that this happened.
I have looked past a lot of the toxic behavior of certain segment of neurotic individuals on the fediverse because I believe in the idea of protocols instead of platforms and user ownership of their data.
But add this to another example of zealots for privacy and “stopping harassment” being bigger bullies than the people they are supposedly against
ActivityPub doesn’t guarantee your post gets taken down on other instances after you delete it. Federation with another site isn’t more a less trustworthy just because it uses AP proper or a bridge.
I think that everyone being on the same protocol is better for compatibility and UX but I think bridges can have their place for those who choose to use them until then.
If IP was developed today, you’d be paying IBM or a similar corp royalties for every network adapter manufactured. Thats whats supposed to be impossible in today’s late-stage hyper-capitalism web.
Nostr is really good at the one thing AP struggled with, which is identity portability.
That being said, I feel like the challenges that nostr has (the network effect, association with crypto bros, private key recovery and human readable account linking) are bigger hurdles than what AP has to overcome
I still think there is room for both to operate and a market niche for bridging services for those who want to follow people on both protocols
I don’t care for beehaw but I don’t see why it’s any different from any other non-federated general discussion forum.
They aren’t helping the fediverse grow but they aren’t actively harming it either. It’s a live or let live thing. Being able to choose who you federate with is part of the fediverse
Maybe because I don’t use Lemmy at real bot hours, I haven’t seen them. Maybe see a spam bot every other day.
I also tend to sort by top 6 hours or top 12 hours so a lot of low effort content gets filtered out.
I also don’t consider people who make off the wall comments or hold opinions I disagree with or think are uniformed or stupid as trolls.
The other thing is that I comment with the philosophy that not every comment signifies a response and so if a reply is a troll or in bad faith, I just keep scrolling.
Your community on koala’s is available on Lemmy, M/Kbin, and sublinks if the host sites are all federated. You just create it on the platform you like to use, if you end up switching to using sublinks in the future you could always make your sublinks account a mod on the community and access it from sublinks