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25 days agoCan you give an example? Are you talking about propaganda from a government or something else?
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Centralization is still a problem, but LW doesn’t have as much propaganda and aggressive moderation
That’s exactly my thought. I really don’t like “Threadiverse” for that reason.
You essentially called me a liar, that’s an attack.
Will you just ignore what I say and attack me with a strawman argument? That’s typically what I get for actually talking to lemmy.ml users. Not interested in wasting my time.
Why engage with someone who uses a complete hyperbolic strawman like this
My guess is it’s actually an LLM.
Yeah, I’m sure you haven’t.
you conflate the safety of the state of Taiwan and Ukraine with the people
I don’t understand what you’re trying to say
Wow, personal attacks from a lemmy.ml user, truly shocking.
Propaganda isn’t obvious like that, and the core of most propaganda is truthful. Generally speaking you need to look at the big picture and what key actors want to be able to see probable propaganda.
They’ll never say “the CCP is great and Taiwanese people don’t deserve freedom,” but they undermine people who would defend Taiwan and help shape things so an attack is more likely to succeed (e.g., supporting the Kremlin’s attack on Ukrainians).
Not really interested in discussing it more with a Lemmy.ml user. I’ve seen too much bad faith engagement and don’t want to waste my time. Apologies if you’re actually sincere.
I assume I’d have to hack into the CCP’s computer networks to get proof.
Agreed, except I don’t think people starting to act terrible was the main problem. I think it’s mostly bots.
Well said. Lemmygrad.ml and lemmy.ml are malicious misinformation factories supporting authoritarian governments, namely the Kremlin and CCP.
They’re worse than garbage and I’ll never recommend the fediverse to anyone, or even admit to using it, while they’re so prominent.
That analogy doesn’t work for malicious state-managed LLMs.
Everything is fine and censorship doesn’t exist and the only truth is that which the government and major corporations tell you, and the government and major corporations are actually the anti-establishment fighting against the big bad individuals who believe things they’re not supposed to.
A sarcastic straw man attack is hardly persuasive. Most of the people you’re here fighting with probably agree censorship is a problem… we’re talking in the fediverse, it’s a self-selecting group that cares about that kind of thing.
FWIW I agree there’s some toxic political extremism in the Lemmyverse from the far left. I’ve almost left because of it. Conflating that with government censorship seems disingenuous. Maybe I’m just not understanding your point.
Spend three seconds on Lemmy and you’ll see how wrong this is.