When I was younger, palmpilots and blackberrys were the coolest things to me. Something that was basically a computer you could carry in your pocket? I wanted one so bad! And now basically everyone has something even better. Funny how things change.

Unfortunately blocking an instance only blocks posts on that instance, not users from it, which is the main issue people have with those instances.

Cool!

To clarify, this is not Fedi-NFTs, right? Just collaborative art/game stuff?

Not to say it’s not still impressive, but Dessalines and Nutomic also get grant money from NLNet, or they at least did for a while. Not entirely sure what the status of that is lately. I’d guess donations make up the bulk at this point either way, following the surge in users from last year.

Demands software they didn’t develop and servers they don’t run abide by their self-proclaimed criteria

Tells others to “get over yourself”

Ah, that makes some sense. Would still like more control over if it appears at all, but I’m glad to know it’s at least not intentionally that glaring.

As far as I can tell it’s comments made within the last 510(?) minutes or so.

Nothing here is written in stone. If removedty people take over, there’s absolutely nothing to stop them throwing out the rules as written, or just ignoring them.

But also: If the idea is that we should just trust the admins: Why have any rules at all?

All we have here is trust. These rules are more so the admins proclaiming their intended goals and actions. Again, there’s nothing to stop an instance admin from doing whatever they want. Could it be more verbose? Absolutely. But as for the claims that the new rules show any deviousness on the part of the current admins, or that having better written rules will inherently protect anyone? Those don’t really hold any merit, imo.

While I don’t think it would be unwarranted, it’s also not specifically necessary. They can interpret that line to mean anything they want. It’s a volunteer run, privately hosted reddit clone. It doesn’t need to be as intricate as US law (which I not sure why that’s “baseline” for anything).

5.0.1: Before using the website, remember you will be interacting with actual, real people and communities. Lemmy.World is not a place for you to attack other groups of people. Every one of our users has a right to browse and interact with the website and all of its contents free of treatment such as harassment, bullying, violation of privacy or threats of violence.

This seems less about users bailing and more about instance admins deciding to do so. The latter have a much higher level of overhead and stress to deal with, so it makes sense to see as the highs of the Reddit protests fade out.

There unfortunately is no system in Lemmy (atm) to do this smoothly. When I was on lemmy.world, I used their system they had set up separately and that worked well, but for most instances, the only process to do something like that is to DM an admin directly, which will of course have greatly varied results, and that’s if the admin isn’t supportive of the abusive mod in the first place.

And? That’s still not saying anything about people with more than one account.

I never said they couldn’t? Just making an observation about what their declared preferences suggest.

Also, they’re the ones advocating for all-inclusive access. Personally I think everything works well enough as-is. If a user gets annoyed or tired of an instance, they can quite easily hop to another. No need to restrict the abilities of admins just because wants to browse chapotraphouse on their main.

Sounds like you’d like it better over there full-time.

Ah, I see that for users now. Thanks! Would still be nice to be able to block communities from afar, too, fwiw.

You can block users / communities in lemmy-ui by going to their profile.

I’m not the user you’re responding to and don’t use the ui they’re talking about, but going to those profiles can be more upsetting than the original comment or post, especially if it’s set up with large images or gifs. It’d be a lot nicer if blocking could be done from other places, too.

I know it’s largely due to a smaller user base, and therefore smaller spread to overly popular personalities and groups, but this is so much nicer without the exceedingly large national flag patterns and huge streamer vanity projects.

That would certainly be one way to handle it, but it brings up a few issues to my mind.

One, like I brought up in my comment, it would be pretty contradictory to a decentralized platform like Lemmy/the Fediverse. Every instance is run the way the admins wish, and having a forced banlistwould be pretty contrary to that idea. If a central authority controls the platform, it isn’t very decentralized, is it? That said, even if we accept an enforced banlist, how effective can it be?

It would need to be handled by a person or group beyond reproach, there would need to be an ironclad way of telling which instances are homes to bots, and it would need to be constantly maintained to add instances as they were found out. None of these really translate to the real world, unfortunately. And even if we get lucky on all of those points and it worked out for a while, introducing a way to block instances off from the entire platform without approval is a pretty big risk if it ever falls into problematic hands down the road.

And if it’s not enforced, we’re left relying on all the instances agreeing, which is just not going to happen. Some instances will decline to work together out of principle, disagreement, or just contrarianism. And then we have all the “dark” instances that are left unmaintained and updated. I’m not sure how much of a problem that latter group would be, overall, but I figure it would lead to some issue or another. Maybe I’m over estimating the effect non-participants would have, but even if that’s not such an issue, what happens when big instances have disagreements, or start their own banlist? Then it’s just a fractured mess that isn’t really helping anybody, doing more to hinder efforts against bot havens than it is helping.

All in all, I just don’t see a good way of it working. I know I’m not really offering solutions here. I’m really just poking holes everywhere, but that’s kind of my point. I hope I’m wrong and there’s a way to address this that I just don’t see. I really like this whole decentralized thing and I want it to work out!