Lemmy doesn’t seem to get much recognition in the wider Fediverse - it tends to get bundled as part of ‘other apps’. Mastodon is much bigger, so better integration with Lemmy probably gets deprioritised below their own issues and feature requests (e.g. I was reading today that Markdown support is often requested, but the base version still doesn’t have it)

I don’t think it’s technically impossible - all the information that another site needs to properly interpret some activity is in the JSON that’s sent. I get the sense that it might be unrealistic to expect Mastodon to make the necessary changes though. It seems more of a political issue than a technical one.

It’s partly an issue of keys. Every fediverse actor has a private key and a public key. When my instance sends this to fediverse@lemmy.world, it’s signed by my private key, and lemmy.world uses my public key to verify it. When fediverse@lemmy.world sends this comment out, it uses it’s own private key to sign it. It can’t just re-transmit my comment, because it doesn’t have my private key. All it can do is Announce that I’ve made the comment (and sign the Announce).

Mastodon treats Announces as Boosts, so every post/comment is interpreted as a thing that fediverse@lemmy.world has boosted, so you get all these un-connected posts appearing. I think it’s mostly up to Mastodon to remedy.

It works better if a Mastodon actor posts into a Lemmy community, then you get the mix like you imagine. e.g.: https://mastodon.world/@Flash/112095241193510662 (this particular post was crowbarred into Lemmy via !tails@lemmon.website, but it would be the same if the author had done it.)

Not quite, no. I know what it isn’t at least.

I’ll keep going - I’m sure the article’s author is someone who genuinely uploaded some confidential info and then became really involved with privacy/GDPR etc, and not someone who was always been really involved with privacy/GDPR issues and now has a story to fit.

I’m gonna find this guy’s image …

https://monero.town/pictrs/image/00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000.jpeg … nope
https://monero.town/pictrs/image/00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000001.jpeg … nope
https://monero.town/pictrs/image/00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000002.jpeg … nope
https://monero.town/pictrs/image/00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000003.jpeg … nope

Mmm, I’m sure it won’t take long. Just have to remember to do it all again for .jpg, .webp, and .png.

Anyway, I’ll let you know when I get it.

Not that I’m aware of, just communities that seem like they might fit, but don’t quite:

!communitypromo@lemmy.ca
!communityspotlight@lemmy.world
!newcommunities@lemmy.world
!newcommunities@discuss.online

I’m sure you could make a more meta-type post in one of these though.

I’ve compiled lemmy a few times - it’s fairly straightforward. I’ve tried to compile kbin before, but gave up bored and pissed off with the instructions - they seem endless, and like a big list of ‘edit this file’ (with no indication for whether you’re adding or updating info), ‘now edit this file’, ‘now go back and edit the first file again’. I know mbin isn’t kbin, but the instructions are the same.

I was trying because someone from there subscribed to a community I made just using ActivityPub, but nothing I’ve sent there has actually appeared. If you send the wrong stuff to lemmy, it errors. It’s not always the most useful message, but it’s at least a ‘400 Bad Request’, not the ‘200 OK {}’ you get back from kbin. What does it want? Does it not like ‘Create/Page’? Is there a problem with the content? I don’t know, because I can’t [be bothered to] compile it, and the tech specs for these 'bins lead to a 404.

Oh wow. That really illustrates it. Your approach to a social media site is very admirable (so much modern stuff assumes that just throwing more CPU cycles / RAM / bandwidth at the problem is a solution).

Flippin’ eck. Seeing a familiar Lemmy post on there, clicking it and seeing the whole thing render instantly was a bit of a shock after getting used to Lemmy’s more pedestrian loading of stuff.

Ooof. That makes me feel better about that time I accidentally brought ‘Test Post 1’ into production by commenting on it.

From the install doc:

My way around this is to use ngrok.com, which is a quick and simple way to create a temporary VPN with a domain and SSL. On the free plan your domain changes often, which will break federation every time you reconnect.

You can now get 1 free static url with ngrok’s free plan. The ‘free’ part of it is that it needs relaunching after a certain period of time (every 2 days, maybe?) but it works well enough to develop things.

I would argue that I’m not asking it to be a queryable thing or a datastore. I wouldn’t expect a community’s ‘Accept’ of a ‘Follow’ to contain loads of data about past activity because that’s not a logical or practical thing to encapsulate. For an Undo though, there’s already a small, fixed-length encapsulated object inside, consistent with how ActivityPub is used for other circumstances. Since it’s there anyway, I don’t see the value in it containing incorrect, made-up data, when it may as well have the correct data.

Well, for my own nefarious purposes, I would’ve preferred to have all the info in one place. I’m not using Lemmy or Mastodon, just messing around with ActivityPub, so it’s be easier not to have to rely on past data about who voted for what that I haven’t necessarily kept.

I was thinking of pinging the bot’s author about how dopey this bot can be, but’s he’s banned on lemmy.ml, so maybe not.

programming.dev changed how active users are calculated on their instance to include voters as well as posters & commentators. It’s a massive difference - programming_humor went from about 700 monthly active users to about 7000, for example.

Viewing communities from other instances from programming.dev’s perspective will give a figure that includes voting activity.

https://communick.com are intending to provide those services. (.news is their Lemmy server)

I don’t have a problem with email verification, 'cos I just don’t use my main email account for it. I’ve signed up to 3 instances previously, and 2 of required it fwiw.

But you’ll need something to deter bots, if only because other instances will defederate you if too much spam/trolling is coming from your site.

I registered and logged in, but it didn’t make it easy

After registering, it didn’t say anything about verifying the email. When I went to the Login screen, it just did nothing after pressing the ‘login’ button. After I went to my email and clicked the verification, it came up with a message ‘saying Email Verified’, and then it let me log in, to a screen that said ‘Verify Email’. Obviously, I just had to click on something like ‘Communities’ to see the main page, but it was a bit odd.

I’m using the Brave browser on an ancient MacBook Air, if that helps.

The admins for https://lemmyhub.com and https://lemmings.world were promoting their instances on one of the other posts.

The admin for a bigger community - https://lemm.ee - has said they’ve assessed the situation re: piracy, and don’t see a need to block the community at dbzer0.

Ah sorry. You’re right, of course. I saw the word ‘fediverse’ and responded without really thinking.

I read that even subscribers on lemmy.world might not even notice that the community is blocked, so there’s not much hope for the rest of us.