So dirty…It’s like a climate crime on rails…

It only taking one asshole is why it doesn’t work. You just never going to have no assholes. So you need a justice system, and a way of policing the policing of it.

Exactly. Without rules and enforcement, you just get a cesspit. Anarchy just doesn’t work.

Yes! That’s the one!

Ah! That makes sense. I was on world news of Lemmy.ml and the comments where full of nutters and/or troll farms. It was like gote/gout (or whatever it was called), another Reddit alternative I’ve tried that seamed to fill Nazis kicked off Reddit. I unsubscribed and blocked.

Edit: Voat! That was it.

Guake. Has been for years. I am in and out the terminal all the time, so F12 works well for me. Plus I used to play Quake and used the in game terminal to do all kinds of things. Plus I’m an old RISC OS kid and F12 was the key to get the “star line”.

That’s good, though I still think it’s a problem they exist. I mean a lot of apps are a webpage wrapped in an app anyway, so why not just a webpage and skip the platform dependence.

Increasingly lots of stuff won’t work without all of the Google services. Banking apps won’t run on root devices or anything odd they detect.

Even without that, I can say how seamless it is.

The main problem is political not technical. The market had been allowed to become a duopoly and too many critical things now need an app on an Android or Apple phone. The worse I know is banks needing an app for authentication for their online banking. No separate security device anymore, those are ewaste apparently.

Public EV chargers where you can only control them from an app.

Riding book at theme parks. The cases are growing. Even the app is just wrapper of hidden web page!

Frankly I think regulation is required to get competition in the market. Not the only tech one either. Why is it so hard for law makers to see monopoly in tech?

Those dependencies adenoid and no kept Upton date, unlike deb/rpm installed stuff. Best sandbox to not compromise your system. Also hope that sandboxing is done right…

Compare with diesel trains. Yep way cleaner. Now an electric train can go on parts that needed disel before.

Completely agree that discoverablity is better. But that needs hardware. It’s crazy this isn’t solved. It means ARM devices are basically made to be e-waste. Make phones and other ARM devices like PCs. Google could mandate that hardware must be discoverable and be able to run a generic stock, to carry the Android brand.

Absolutely fine. Probably helps I’m a XFCE man so at least my desktop doesn’t suddenly change. I enjoy the constant incrementing of stuff. Gets boring before a Stable release during the freeze.

I’ve been happily running Debian for over a decade. Stable for servers, Testing or SID for laptops and desktops. The original installs not still running and upgrading are ones on hardware too obsolete to be useful (SheevaPlug). Still probably supported by Debian though!

Including one install that started as Mint Debian Edition, was upgrading to Testing, then cross graded from 32bit to 64bit, been through 3 motherboards and is now Stable for it’s final days before the disk is scrapped.

I love the pacakaging, the philosophy and all the platforms supported (including really old ones).

I literally count it among the proof humans are not irredeemable.

Edit: Expand about “obsolete”.

DeviceTree is a massive improvement compared to no discoverablity AND no DeviceTree. Each device was a custom kernel build, duplicate drivers and other code. It was madness. Linus lost his removed with the ARM kernel devs saying it has to be sorted. DeviceTree was the solution.

In the end, ARM will have discoverablity. Buses like I2C and SPI will have some standard to discover what the hell is on them. But today it’s chaos and DeviceTree is the only source or order.

Linux has been on ARM since the 90s and Acorn days. Russell King is a large name to thank for the maturity of Linux on ARM.

http://www.home.armlinux.org.uk/~rmk/personal/

Love Debian. Been running Stable on servers, and Testing or SID on laptops/desktops, for over a decade. Same installs still running and upgrading. Love the DFSG and all the platforms supports.

I count Debian as proof humans are not irredeemable.

Fedora is how people get familiar, and stay familiar, with RedHat ways. Without it, when a company moves to Linux servers, there won’t be as many Linux people pushing for RedHat. They will probably know, and thus push, Ubuntu.

I see these moves us knuckling down on the customers they have and ignoring winning new ones. It’s very shortsighted.

Don’t use Fedora or it’s ilk for starters.

Sounds like something not ready for production to me. If it is not maintainable without nailing down it’s dependencies, it’s got a problem. I much prefer the reproducable packages direction. Seams a way more maintainable and open, approach.