Heeey I am also a libertarian, I just tend towards left libertarian. Back to the point of discussion, I find it difficult to ha e a meaningful conversation with the tankies or in general anyone from lemmy.ml . The discussions tend to lack any real data and feel entirely vibe based OR it’s apologist bullremoved for Russia.

Like it’s cool if you like communism and have a philosophy based around why you think it’ll help humanity. I can politely disagree but still listen and discuss. It’s quite another to just be a complete dipremoved and say “Ukraine had the invasion coming” (actual quote I’ve seen).

It’s what Ive come to expect from the lemmy.ml instance and I finally blocked the entire instance.

Are you developing your opinions based on vibes or have you actually audited their software yourself (you are free to do so both client and federation server code)?

If you audited it, have you produced an actual report with metrics and points of reference for your data points?

That’s a fair question.

In consideration, take the Jim Crow laws from the USA. These laws enforced racial segregation and allowed for abject racism and abhorrent conditions/treatment of black people. In short, they supported racism.

Now one could say “but the people were the ones to carry it out” which sure, but then we might as well start asking ourselves how much government really matters and other philosophical questions. I don’t think the people are innocent, but to focus on your question, that’s an example of how political policy and laws can support things. The laws enable the legal environment, the people then carry it out.

Gotcha gotcha

People are happy and enjoy eating them so I guess I’m doing it right. How are you making yours?

That’s possible, the statement is a bit ambiguous as to which part they are "whomp whomp"ing to.

Not sure if you mean me by “person you’re replying to” or someone else. I believe it’s someone else but it’s a little bit of a confusing sentence.

Either way, it’s been a fun couple of months since this bullremoved started. With all kinds of dumb takes and arguments. It’s enough to make someone say “oyvey”

Holy removed.

Zionism (the political policy supporting the genocide) is not Judaism. How would I know? I’m a Jew and I abhore the Palestinian genocide. Nothing in the Jewish religion supports what is going on nor does anything in our religion say “go be ZIONISTS and kill people”.

That one no, but there are plenty of leftists in the fediverse that can’t understand the concept of “Zionism is not Judaism.” And saying such gets you down voted because lol.

Thanks I think you’re pretty nifty too. You’re welcome over for latkas anytime

+1 to this. I built a few deb packages at a previous company. It was a solid packaging suite but good lord was it a pain to work through

What is sublinks?

Update: there was a link in the article, thanks though!

Won’t lie I’m getting sold on this via this discussion

I mean, security is an unintended outcome of it. Any kind of isolation of packages provides a level of security.

All of these points are completely correct and paint an accurate picture of the inherent issues with both technologies.

My intent with my earlier comment was to show how flatpaks and appimages were different from traditional package managers at a high level so I could ask what made nixpkgs different from something I felt and still kinda feel is a more accurate comparison which are traditional package managers like apt etc.

The big selling point to me now is that nixpkgs seem to work similarly to virtualenvs from Python which is cool.

So it sounds like nixpkgs is more akin to virtualenvs in Python rather than a traditional package manager. Is that an accurate statement?

If so, I’d recommend that be your selling point because that’s some powerful security.

You’re not exactly comparing apples to apples here.

Flatpak and appimages tend to be used in any distro because they can just be downloaded in a one off manner and installed then you’re running the application (for the most part). They offer a manager of sorts but you don’t need it to use the packages.

For nixpkgs, whike I’m sure I can get a package from the sounds of the sizes the package covers only the application or the library, meaning I still need the dependencies.

So what exactly would make me the user trade my built in tools (apt/pacman/dnf) for nix? Keep in mind no matter how great you feel it is, you need to provide reasoning that motivates me to install and learn this new tool instead of the old ones I have.

It’s pretty nice on my steamdeck no issues to report. I prefer a nice Deb package but on the deck flatpaks get preserved over upgrades.

I’ll be honest, I kinda hate snaps on Ubuntu. They work well enough, but things like updates are never automatic and generally just a pain in the ass. I’m at the point where I really want to experiment with bedrock Linux to have ubuntu’s kernel for built in ZFS and have debian repos for less removed decisions.

On my steam deck, I’ve become fond of flatpaks and similar experiences because they help preserve the software across updates ensuring I don’t have to constantly reinstall things but that’s a niche issue given the nature of how steam manages the os on a steam deck