At that point you might as well go with a steamdeck. Works with or without the mouse/keyboard/screen and can play games. The desktop environment is full kde and ready to go.
kde, linux, busses, open source and the good old Grateful Dead.
At that point you might as well go with a steamdeck. Works with or without the mouse/keyboard/screen and can play games. The desktop environment is full kde and ready to go.
I will not change on this: an official wiki (for example the arch wiki) or other documentation is still the best way to convey exact information. If a user absolutely never wants to use a command line, then they can use Android and a touch interface. Even Microsoft gives directions on how to fix things with a command line. This should be infrequent, but is a necessity for brevity and precision.
In any case we might as well put that to rest and move on.
When I have a working example that does at least something we can go from there. The bullet points are helpful, thank you.
It is not strange or difficult. I am not expecting them to know what to type, I am expecting to have clear instructions as to exactly what they need to type. Which is really hard to convey with a gui. Administration of a computer and sharing functions is so much faster by copy/paste exactly what you expect them to. It is the easiest, most concise method.
In any case: lets get back to the task at hand. I will make a simple GUI that creates the credentials file, the mount point file, the automount file, and finally restarts the system daemon.
I guess it needs to show any errors at that time.
The user will provide some info that I will gather as it goes along (like SMB credentials) and I guess I will include the ability to simply go on without mounting if the network mount point is not available (in case of laptop).
There are a few elevations of privileges to sort out, and to keep it simple I will use Kdialog (for the gui presentation) which will make the code very obvious as it is simply bash behind it all.
After that do you want me to share this with you? I am not sure when I will get it done, but it should be fairly easy. Then I can put it on github I guess.
Realistically, to make this functional, it should be able to ready your current mount points and allow the user to edit, doing error checking etc. That would be a future phase.
There is a reason Digikam can’t rely on the SMB connection that dolphin makes. I do the same with my Music library and make it permanent mount at boot.
The command line fails hugely on usability, learnability and familiarity.
No. It EXCELS at usability and learnability. Because it works the same every time. It is shareable, teachable, and precise. GUI’s are sloppy, difficult to explain and tell people what to click on. Difficult for them to explain how to get back to where they were if they get lost.
Repeatable is not what a GUI is good for.
I will say it might be nice if there was a pattern that could be reused, for example if a distro wanted to plan for it. Then again, you are connecting to SMB (windows) share, so the importance is fairly low.
I am looking at a mount now, and it is tempting to make a default file, walk through the questions necessary to create everything, and then execute it. It is only a handful of lines to make the mount point, and then a systemd command to mount with out needing to edit fstab.
So somehow they have created and managed SMB sharing in their local environment, but can’t figure this out?
Simply having a SMB share available is just a simple click in dolphin and then you can bookmark it. Easy enough.
For a permanent share (like with Digikam expects) takes a few extra steps, but they are not terribly hard.
I am a bit taken aback with the terms you use: “use some command line or other nerdy hack, with magic words…that shouldnt be necessary in the first place” is over the top annoying. Yes use the command line. That is the easiest way to explain and perform things. Dozens of pictures of clicking things, or a simple direct command that is copy able and repeatable. I will take the latter.
Why would you call telling you computer what to do a “nerdy hack”? This is not “broken usability”, it is efficient. Why do you have such a negative reaction to using a computer in an easy way?
I will say it is a few steps to mount at boot, as you will need to add to fstab, create a access file, and so on. Part of that is linux security. I am not sure how that could be wrapped into a gui, but I suppose it would not be too hard to do, with a need to elevate privileges. If you think this is a barrier to entry, would you be interested in writing this gui?
Ok so there isn’t a gui, but mounting a share at boot is not that hard… seems weird to say it can be done but not the way I want to do it, so I dont.
I find that Firefox manages tabs better. So eveb though i use side tabs on vivaldi, I prefer them on top in Firefox, and it’s just a keystroke away to see the list vertically, but not stay that way.
Nope, not really. If you have a list of files you single click on the name, not the icon. That selects it. No dragging.
Single click is so much better. Vastly superior.
How do I live? Without carpal tunnel.
Windows had it for ages
Windows single click never worked right. I don’t use the little check box or selection. I use both Windows and Linux, and windows stays in Double click even though I have been doing single on KDE since as long as I can remember.
check box
Its funny, I single click in KDE since 3.X or when ever it was introduced. But I never really used the check boxes.
No it isn’t. It just doesn’t happen.
Kinda disappointed actually. It’s in my top ten best features if KDE. Single click is so much faster and easier. No other OS has gotten this right.
As long as they dont take it away. But since most people now won’t know it’s there they are unlikely to find out just how great it is.
If you have a list, click on the item to open, click next to it to select.
The thing is, most people don’t consider installing an OS. Odds are the computer came with one.
Otherwise (aside from the paralysis of choice) neither Linux nor Windows present more or less of a challenge to install.
The people who find the most difficulty seem to be the ones who think they know better or have become used to the windows way of doing things.
As an aside, Last windows install I did required setting two registry keys during the install process. It was far more annoying than a typical Linux install.
Depending on how it’s packaged, the visualizations might be missing. I noticed that too.
Yes but clementine still has features not yet in strawberry.
Clementine. Strawberry is getting there but still doesn’t have as many features.
Edit: huh, I didn’t expect a downvote on Lemmy for my opinion. Is reddit leaking through? Weird.
What a sensational, over blown article. ArsTechnica this is removedty journalism and you should know it.
The headline would be about as correct if it said “SystemD update will bring Amiga’s Guru Meditation screen to Linux.”
This update has nothing to do with Windows. Error displays with additional information about the crash is not exclusive to windows, nor new. In fact a Kernel Panic screen happened in Unix.
Strawberry or Clementine. I mean 100K entries in a database is nothing. Even for SQLite. You can add multiple library locations, this is no problem.
You probably want Strawberry as it is newer and maintained, but I still like Clementine for the extra features that Strawberry doesn’t have yet. For you probably, not a big deal - things like podcast support, cloud support etc.