Definitely. Back when I used FB and Twitter I learned that reporting is entirely useless. You just end up with some automated message about how they reviewed it and it “didn’t violate their community standards” with some lame verbiage like “we realize this isn’t the outcome you were looking for”, regardless of how ridiculously blatant whatever you reported was. On the flip side, I was banned for clearly misinterpreted or brigaded comments, and then an appeal just gives you the inverse where they reviewed it and whatever you posted was definitely terrible and they “realize this isn’t the outcome you were looking for”.

You can call it whatever you want. Email has been around since the 70s. Bluesky and ActivityPub sure have not.

Your rephrasing changed it qualitatively. Of course it takes no position on whether Lemmy is part of the Fediverse considering it now does not have the word Fediverse in it.

The mention of email is

Even so, much like how users of one email service such as Gmail can still send emails to users of another service such as Outlook, users may still view content and interact with users on any other instance in the fediverse

which implicitly says email is not considered part of the fediverse by comparing the two.

The others listed are bluesky, nostra and farcast. I suppose we could count protocols that nobody uses…

Fediverse is ActivityPub. Email is not, though the theory is somewhat similar.

From what I understand, yes, moderation is not federated. That’s good in that instances can enforce their own mod standards, but it also means spam/harmful content has to be removed by each server individually.

No idea if there’s an appeal process but you could ask on the lemmy.world support community.

That is one method that has been used recently… they drill a hole and connect to a serial port or something.

This is probably before your time, but it’s like when Usenet was opened to AOL subscribers. Just a giant flood of stupid people. Thankfully, we can defederate.

Other than that and what I mentioned about server resources, many people are here because we don’t like centralized corporate social media. Being connected to a meta service is against the principles of many on the Fediverse. Meta also might try to influence the protocol or open source projects based on it, and as you said, EE&E.

There’s a chance it could actually be good for mastodon and lemmy since there’s a good bit of publicity about it, and people could realize they don’t have to use meta and threads and could just directly use mastodon.

How could meta do that? The issue is that they’re adding federation to connect Threads to mastodon, Lemmy, Kbin and other systems that use it. Like any other instance though, administrators have the option to defederate, and I expect most will. Many already preemptively have them on their block list. If nothing else, it’s expected that being federated with threads would be very intensive in terms of storage and cpu resources, so it wouldn’t be feasible for most instance operators to be connected to them. Plus, it’s unpopular with most users. Meta does not have any control over the open source project or individual instances.

That’s interesting. What that indicates to me is that they feel it’s not advantageous marketing-wise to have one in other regions.

That’s cool, I think that will help explain it. I didn’t realize the accounts for people on reddit were being created on lemmy automatically though. Do the reddit users even know it’s happening?

Great, I think as my and other people’s experience illustrates it has been a bit confusing so far, being unexplained. The byline will help a lot, I think.

Sure, it’s useful as it is as long as people check into their Lemmy accounts. I suppose I would if I signed up and was aware there might be replies waiting for me on Lemmy in addition to Reddit.

I read more about the project and it seems interesting. I suppose 2 way communication to sync accounts between reddit and lemmy would be interesting… would the reddit TOS allow that? Or would the reddit admins tolerate it for long? I suppose you’ve looked into it.

The problem is the current state is confusing… if you look at the communities posted in by the bots, it is a huge flood of posts, like sometimes 20 posts in 15 minutes. I guess that would be different if Lemmy was more active, but it isn’t yet. Also, it’s confusing - one has to visit alien.top and github to have any idea what’s going on, and if the account holders aren’t receiving the posts, it’s sort of wasting people’s effort on lemmy and not creating true engagement. Perhaps a disclaimer like ‘this post mirrored by Fediverser’ would help.

Less silly than a whole goofy gnome.

Gnome Chomsky would be pretty hilarious. Kinda political though.

True, Windows had a couple characters (well, Clippy was for Office). The idea of those was a digital assistant character though, not really a mascot.

I think they’re happy with just a slightly silly foot logo. “Gnome Network Object Model Environment” is a serious sounding name and I don’t think an animal mascot is what they had in mind for branding (seeing as, they don’t have one). An anime gnome might even be the exact opposite of what their intent is. GNOME is looking to be seen as a professional alternative to MacOS and Windows. Speaking of which, note that Windows and OSX don’t have a mascot either.

Probably because a gnome would be silly. I presume that’s not the image they’re looking for - garden gnomes, Christmas, fairy tales.

Yeah, I didn’t really understand the description. You sign up by authenticating with reddit, and then it automatically connects you with the same subs you have on reddit?

I see “Your account will be activated and you will be subscribed to Lemmy communities that have a reddit counterpart.” but also “create bot accounts to mirror the original accounts on a corresponding fediverse-enabled server”. Hmm.

Right, I mean, I don’t think we’d want Lemmy to just become a clone of reddit with all the same people. Not being ran by a lame corp would still be an advantage but for now I think discourse on Lemmy is higher quality and I hope it stays that way.

At least lemmit has a blurb that explains the content comes from reddit. Looking at alien.top itself, they do explain that it’s a page for “Fediverser” which posts content from reddit, but it’s sort of vague - makes it seem like people from reddit are signing up there to do this on purpose, but I’m not sure if that’s really how it works.

And yeah, it’s useless to respond to if the person asking isn’t going to get the reply. I’m not sure why people think auto-reddit spam would be a useful thing for lemmy.