Some of the LinkedIn Responses are direct and on-point, and also hilariously/depressingly based depending on how you look at it:

EDIT: In hindsight, I think I should’ve looked into posting this in a different community… It’s closer to a silly “innovation”… soo… is this considered FUD? I also don’t support smoking or vaping, especially among kids. Original title had “privacy-violating” before the “solution”.

  • oatscoop@midwest.social
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    15
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    4 months ago

    … good?

    Everyone (even kids) have a reasonable expectation of privacy, but children using drugs in school isn’t something that falls under that reasonable expectation of privacy.

    • exanime@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      9
      arrow-down
      9
      ·
      4 months ago

      Considering they are only harming themselves, no I do not care much

      As others mentioned, I think schools should dedicate resources to address this situation through education, instead of paying some start up for some surveillance gadgets

      • Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        9
        arrow-down
        5
        ·
        4 months ago

        They are not just harming themselves. Everyone knows how harmful secondhand smoke is.

          • Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            6
            arrow-down
            3
            ·
            4 months ago

            Nope, not smoke per se, but still damaging to breathe.

            I think people severely underestimate how harmful it is.

            • exanime@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              4
              arrow-down
              3
              ·
              4 months ago

              Happy to read about it of you have any source to share

              I know vaping is not without dangers but it is a step forward from smoking. I honestly never read anything about second hand vaping fumes

              In any case, I am not in favour of vaping in schools. I just think schools should not spend money in these detector crap. They should address it with their best tool, education

      • oatscoop@midwest.social
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        edit-2
        4 months ago

        Considering they are only harming themselves

        Again, we’re talking about actual children. You know: people that have yet to mentally develop to the point where they can make fully informed decisions on everything and sometimes have to be “coerced” by reasonable adults into doing so.

          • oatscoop@midwest.social
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            4 months ago

            I didn’t disagree with that part. Doing what you suggested and using the “vape detectors” aren’t mutually exclusive.

            • exanime@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              2
              ·
              4 months ago

              Doing what you suggested and using the “vape detectors” aren’t mutually exclusive.

              Well, kind of since I suggested NOT using vape detectors

    • I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      5
      arrow-down
      7
      ·
      4 months ago

      How would you like this installed in your workplace? How about ankle monitors that detect if you’re jaywalking? What about if your car had a sensor that automatically informed law enforcement if you were speeding. What if your ISP would shut off anytime you watched a video with copyright without permission.

      See how bullremoved “if you’re doing nothing wrong, you have nothing to hide” is?

      • oatscoop@midwest.social
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        5
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        4 months ago

        There’s this wild, outlandish idea that kids don’t have the maturity, experience, or impulse control to make informed and rational decisions all the time. Thus we don’t give kids the exact same rights and responsibilities we give to adults – they gradually gain them as they mature and demonstrate they can handle them.

        How would you like this installed in your workplace?

        Yes, because my workplace staffed entirely by people 21+ is the same thing as a school filled with literal children. Also, for some unknowable reason we don’t have issues with people vaping in the building despite having people that smoke and vape. Couldn’t possibly have anything to do with the fact none of us are teenagers.

        What if [slippery slope]?

        You do know that’s a fallacy, right?