I’m curious to hear thoughts on this. I agree for the most part, I just wish people would see the benefit of choice and be brave enough to try it out.

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    @HughJanus windows is not user friendly. You are confusing familiarity with ease of use.

    Most are familiar with it since its widely used as the first OS since school. Give it to a lifelong mac user and see how much they struggle. Even ones who are using windows for nearly a decade struggle as soon as they need to use anything more than office, chrome or the file explorer. They fear the control panel nearly as much as they would a terminal and i have to give detailed instruction on what to click

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      You people keep saying this but it’s simply not true. I used Windows for 20 years and never went into the CLI, which is basically a daily occurrence to complete basic tasks in Linux.

      For example, today I went to download the new Simplex app. On Windows, download and run the .exe and it installs itself. Done.

      On Linux, they only have a .deb version. So to install that on Fedora I have to install some other program, and the only way to install the program is from the CLI. Tried to do that. The first command I copied and pasted the first command into the CLI and…nothing happened. Not even an error message. Give up.

      The end.

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        @HughJanus whos ‘you people’ here? My point was that just as terminal for linux is scary, many people find even the control panel in windows scary and hard to use. Your personal experience may vary but many issues you point to isnt linux specific.

        Assuming you refer to simleX chat, I just grabbed the appimage from their github release page, marked it executable and ran it without a hitch. Took me 5-10 clicks and nearly the same as for Windows. Don’t have fedora RN but assume its the same.

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          whos ‘you people’ here?

          “You people” who are delusional and incessantly lie about how “easy” things are.

          My point was that just as terminal for linux is scary, many people find even the control panel in windows scary and hard to use.

          This is not even remotely comparable. You don’t need the control panel to install software (a basic task), and even if you do need it for something, it’s fairly intuitive. You just click around until you find what you need. Using the CLI requires you to have a working knowledge of a removeding encyclopedia of gibberish commands.

          Your personal experience may vary but many issues you point to isnt linux specific.

          Yes. They are.

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            @HughJanus completey glances over the solution for your precise problem and yet making strawman arguments of how tough linux is and calling others liars without providing any valid proof. End of our conversation. Stay classy.

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              LOL how exactly do you expect me to prove this? It’s just a case of simple observation and I’ve provided detailed examples. You just don’t like them.

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            @HughJanus
            Legitimately don’t remember the last time I *had* to use a terminal to install a program in linux, I pretty much just click to install everything using KDE’s Discover store, except for things I download off github which often come as appimages which are practically the same as windows executables in terms of ease of use
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