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Yeah, let’s not mention Gnome breaking every peace of itself every update, along with abandoning APIs and hating QT apps. How can I use a DE, if I can almost certainly be sure that half of my extensions won’t work after another update? Or that all of my QT apps will look weird (if they’ll work at all)?
And I don’t hate Gnome. It’s cool and stuff, but you can’t call it stable, 'cause KDE/XFCE/LXDE/[insert DE name here] will be far more stable than Gnome.
What’s sad is the gnome team is so adamant about removing functionality to make their jobs easier.
This means you need extensions to make gnome usable, but it ends up feeling hacked together because it is.
I’ll never forgive the gnome team for their defense of putting the dock on the side with no option to change it or not including something like gnome tweak tools by default.
It’s really obvious gnome died with gnome3. That’s when all the forks happened, and for good reason. The gnome3 team just listens to the wrong people.
I’m glad we have alternatives to that pile of crap.
If you rely on extensions when you use GNOME, that’s on you. Vanilla gnome is perfectly fine by itself if you understand the workflow. I only really want, not need, one extension and that’s pano the clipboard manager. Anything else is just extra.
@TeryVeneno@JustMarkov, Gnome really works good and it’s stable, but the Apps Ecosystem isn’t really the best. You have “limited” apps in the sense of: apps don’t have so much features as the Kirigami apps for KDE. Sometimes we like an integrated terminal in apps or split screen option (like in Dolphin) and Gnome doesn’t feature it from out of the box. Then you have to use extensions, which are really, really unstable 🙄 (that’s just my point of view)
That’s really interesting cause in my experience it’s been the opposite, I feel way too limited and also overwhelmed using kde apps, the plethora of gnome apps on flathub dedicated to doing one thing really well are just wonderful. And sometimes more complicated ones show up too like Design or Denaro or Planify.
@TeryVeneno, Yes Gnome it’s more user friendly and has more macOS features. It’s easier to catch up and use it (I used it for 4 years, before switching to Cinnamon, then Deepin and now KDE for another 4 years). On KDE I just like the features that Gnome doesn’t provide, like: hot corners, easier switching desktops, integrated terminal in almost any app 😅, KDE admin apps (like KSysLog), SSH profile in Konsole,… It’s better for daily usage. But Gnome has far better UI/UX (I have to admit) 😁
Aside from the integrated terminal in almost any app, I think gnome has all those other features you mentioned. I do have to say KDE is definitely more customizable though. Also not sure I would say gnome has any MacOS features, the two are very different in my experience. But gnome is definitely lagging on implementation of Somme Wayland things. UI/UX is king though for me so here we are lol.
Yeah, let’s not mention Gnome breaking every peace of itself every update, along with abandoning APIs and hating QT apps. How can I use a DE, if I can almost certainly be sure that half of my extensions won’t work after another update? Or that all of my QT apps will look weird (if they’ll work at all)?
And I don’t hate Gnome. It’s cool and stuff, but you can’t call it stable, 'cause KDE/XFCE/LXDE/[insert DE name here] will be far more stable than Gnome.
What’s sad is the gnome team is so adamant about removing functionality to make their jobs easier.
This means you need extensions to make gnome usable, but it ends up feeling hacked together because it is.
I’ll never forgive the gnome team for their defense of putting the dock on the side with no option to change it or not including something like gnome tweak tools by default.
It’s really obvious gnome died with gnome3. That’s when all the forks happened, and for good reason. The gnome3 team just listens to the wrong people.
I’m glad we have alternatives to that pile of crap.
Gnome is amazing.
I’m glad you like it.
Yeah, it’s amazing. Best DE for sure. I’m sorry that it hurts your feelings or whatever, that’s unfortunate.
This is not my experience.
That’s mine!
If you rely on extensions when you use GNOME, that’s on you. Vanilla gnome is perfectly fine by itself if you understand the workflow. I only really want, not need, one extension and that’s pano the clipboard manager. Anything else is just extra.
Well, maybe it is the DE that should be able to adapt to my workflow and not the other way around
@TeryVeneno @JustMarkov, Gnome really works good and it’s stable, but the Apps Ecosystem isn’t really the best. You have “limited” apps in the sense of: apps don’t have so much features as the Kirigami apps for KDE. Sometimes we like an integrated terminal in apps or split screen option (like in Dolphin) and Gnome doesn’t feature it from out of the box. Then you have to use extensions, which are really, really unstable 🙄 (that’s just my point of view)
That’s really interesting cause in my experience it’s been the opposite, I feel way too limited and also overwhelmed using kde apps, the plethora of gnome apps on flathub dedicated to doing one thing really well are just wonderful. And sometimes more complicated ones show up too like Design or Denaro or Planify.
@TeryVeneno, Yes Gnome it’s more user friendly and has more macOS features. It’s easier to catch up and use it (I used it for 4 years, before switching to Cinnamon, then Deepin and now KDE for another 4 years). On KDE I just like the features that Gnome doesn’t provide, like: hot corners, easier switching desktops, integrated terminal in almost any app 😅, KDE admin apps (like KSysLog), SSH profile in Konsole,… It’s better for daily usage. But Gnome has far better UI/UX (I have to admit) 😁
Aside from the integrated terminal in almost any app, I think gnome has all those other features you mentioned. I do have to say KDE is definitely more customizable though. Also not sure I would say gnome has any MacOS features, the two are very different in my experience. But gnome is definitely lagging on implementation of Somme Wayland things. UI/UX is king though for me so here we are lol.
*me waiting for EventCalendar and Krunner-Symbols being updated for Plasma 6*
Luckily with Plasma it’s not as common for extensions to break.