Hi
I run proxmox and Ubuntu machines on my server , but have always used a windows laptop(which is work based).
The work laptop now is very restricted so I was thinking of getting a laptop with Linux.
There are a few ThinkPad X1 carbon gen 7 i7 on sale in Europe.
I was wondering would they work well for Linux.
I just be using it as a daily driver , battery life is prob main concern.
Thank
+1 for the Framework laptop from https://frame.work/ . It’s my favorite laptop I’ve ever owned and the Linux support is excellent. There’s a healthy Linux community surrounding this laptop and the Arch wiki even has an entire aricle dedicated to it.
Too expensive though.
My experience is the complete opposite.
I pre-ordered a 13 inch DIY Ryzen 7840u with 32 gigs and it cost me 1600€. I will spend another 50 on an SSD. Not sure you can get that kind of hardware for less, elsewhere.
A similarly specced XPS for example is easily a couple hundred more.
Edit: just checked again, at least Dell Italy only sells the 13 XPS with a 13th (or 12th) gen Intel. Fine, I don’t really mind it. But it sells for 2100€ (with 32GB, a 1TB drive and an OLED display). I guess that the OLED alone might be worth the price difference.
The point tho is that even at the same price, I’d still take framework’s repairability any day.
Funny thing is, I’m gonna replace my current XPS 13 with an 11th gen Intel just because the RAM is not upgradable and I’m stuck with 16gigs.
I’m sick and tired of having to get rid of perfectly fine hardware just because it’s not upgradable.
With framework I can spend another 100-150 down the road and bump my config’s 32 to 64.
@happyhippo @bankimu but if your not looking to spend 2000+ on a laptop then they don’t offer anything. and the price for their min spec is insane a ryzen 5 8gb or ram and 250gb of storage. no ports, pretty standard display for $1,300 is insane
You can instead, for instance, get a Dell latitude with 32GB i7, for less than $1000. It comes preinstalled with an inferior “OS” (rather sales, telemetry and data harvesting avenue), Windows 11 Pro. But it begs to be wiped and installed Fedora or Arch or some other useful OS, which is easily done.
@happyhippo
you have a little monster laptop
@bankimu @linux
I just got one for my wife.
Their stock was low so I got the German model+a US keyboard and did the swap.
There were a lot of screws, took about 45 minutes, just put some music on and went to town. Their documentation is top notch.
Really pretty awesome.
I’ve exclusively used Thinkpads with Linux as my daily driver since 20 years now. Programming, office, general tinkering (no graphics-intensive stuff though) - had almost no issues in the whole time.
IMHO for Linux, you really can’t go wrong with any Thinkpad nowadays.
Some people mentioned Framework and I would definitely look into it, however you didn’t specify your country and they don’t sell everywhere in Europe. I was just in a market for a new laptop and really wanted it but it’s not available in my country.
Another options for an out of the box Linux laptop are Slimbook, Tuxedo Computers and Starlabs. I personally just ordered Slimbook Executive 14 yesterday.
Framework :)
If you can get a Carbon X1, do it. Yes the battery is smaller but it’s a sleek laptop so portability is high.
And if you’re doing heavy work just plug in the charger.
Most hardware works flawless in Linux, usually the worse thing that can happen is a propriatary Wifi or Bluetooth module but those are usually really easy to replace. Power managment isn’t the absolut best tho so you will probably have a little bit less battery life over all.
I use my Windows work laptop as my personal laptop by booting Ubuntu off an external SSD. It is connected through the laptop’s thunderbolt USB C port, and Ubuntu runs smoothly without any issues as if it were off the internal drive. And not the most elegant solution, but I have Velcro strips on the drive and laptop, so to transform from work computer to personal, I just stick the drive on, plug it in, and boot up Linux! And the best part is that because it’s a completely different drive, there are no personal files/data actually saved on the work computer.
Thinkpad X1 Carbons are absolutely flawless in Linux… I’ve used Gen 5s and now have a Gen 9.
Gen 10 checking in, still works flawlessly.
You can’t beat the ease of firmware updates either. lvfs/fwupdmgr take care of updates for both my laptop and Lenovo TB4 docking station.
I have a Thinkpad X1 running the latest Ubuntu desktop. Works great, suspend works, hibernate works, etc. All in all running perfectly though I haven’t tried the fingerprint reader.
The fingerprint reader is a bit of a gimmick anyway. I used it for a week then went back to my pin
Thinkpad is a excellent choice for Linux as Lenovo supports Linux on some machines. I am rocking an old intel 4th gen Notebook as sidekick to my main machine. Works like a charm and was cheap.
Thinkpads are usually really good with linux support. I don’t know about the new ones tho. I always see people post about their T420 or older
Thinkpads generally work quite well with Linux from what Ive heard.
I have used Thinkpad x230, x1 3rd Gen, and x1 6th Gen. All of them have been flawless with Linux.
My main machine is still a x230. I don’t notice the difference between it and my Ryzen desktop unless I’m compiling something big.
Just stay away from anything that has a dedicated Nvidia GPU. I have tried everything, still no distro apart from popOS! that didn’t massacre my battery…
Another place to look is at Lenovo laptops, I’ve had no problems installing Linux on them, and catch the right sale and you can get some really nice deals, though you have to be careful as they have a ridiculous number of variations on each model, some existing only for a single special deal.
