This has happened once before and they reversed it. But they said this last time too:
The discussions that have happened in various threads on Lemmy make it very clear that removing the communites before we announced our intent to remove them is not the level of transparency the community expects, and that as stewards of this community we need to be extremely transparent before we do this again in the future as well as make sure that we get feedback around what the planned changes are, because lemmy.world is yours as much as it is ours.
PSA: Lemmy.ml has a piracy community and federates with everyone world federates with so you can have the same experience.
Lemmy.ml is also one of the worst offenders spreading authoritarian propaganda for the CCP and Kremlin. I hate Lemmy.ml
Examples?
I occasionally see this argument but not yet seen any evidence to back it up.
Same here. I discuss a lot with .ml and besides dumping on capitalism a lot (and rightfully so), I havent seen anything supporting this claim either.
I just searched “china”, and didn’t notice any authoritarian propaganda in the first 3 pages, but I counted 6 anti-chinese stories.
The closest to pro-chinese stories that came up were that EU citizens can now travel to China visa-free, the CEO of evergrande getting fined and banned from business, and some news story about economic numbers.
Would you care to point it out to me?
Propaganda isn’t obvious like that, and the core of most propaganda is truthful. Generally speaking you need to look at the big picture and what key actors want to be able to see probable propaganda.
They’ll never say “the CCP is great and Taiwanese people don’t deserve freedom,” but they undermine people who would defend Taiwan and help shape things so an attack is more likely to succeed (e.g., supporting the Kremlin’s attack on Ukrainians).
Not really interested in discussing it more with a Lemmy.ml user. I’ve seen too much bad faith engagement and don’t want to waste my time. Apologies if you’re actually sincere.
I think I see the disconnect, you conflate the safety of the state of Taiwan and Ukraine with the people so statements like “I don’t think we should sacrifice a million Ukrainians to weaken Russia” come off as undermining the defense of Ukraine.
I’m certain even the pro-independence people living in Taiwan would prefer status quo to looking like Ukraine.
I don’t understand what you’re trying to say
its pretty clear. You’re conversing with a tankie.
My guess is it’s actually an LLM.
How am I to tell who is a tankie, vs a wumao, vs a Russian bot troll? It can be hard to tell who is commenting in good faith.
I’m kidding, of course. I just block them all. No one using these talking points is worth my time.
Surely anyone who isn’t just begging for rivers of foreign blood must be a robot. Just inconceivable that anyone could want less bloodshed.
A state and it’s people’s interests aren’t the same.
Take self-determination movements; the people in eastern Ukraine want to leave, the state of Ukraine doesn’t want to give up territory.
Supporting the state in this case is opposing the people, supporting the people is opposing the state.
If I was in Russia, I’d have pointed at Syrian Kurdistan before the US invasion/occupation of Syria.
More lies from lemmy.ml, no surprise. The people of eastern Ukraine want to be part of Ukraine. Even the Russian speakers in Ukraine want to be part of Ukraine 2:1.
That was in 2014, there wasn’t even a coherent Ukrainian state and they were going through new presidents every month. A lot changed over the next 10 years. Western Ukraine was shelling Eastern Ukraine right up until the day of the invasion.
do you have any proof of this?
I assume I’d have to hack into the CCP’s computer networks to get proof.
what’s the point of making things up like this, then?
Wow, personal attacks from a lemmy.ml user, truly shocking.
i didn’t make any personal attacks, and i’m on kolektiva
You essentially called me a liar, that’s an attack.
if you think I violated a rule you should report it.
Don’t waste your time, that user is delusional.
Not entirely true, I discovered the other day, while helping someone figure out why they couldn’t access .ml communities, that .ml blocks furry instances…
Edit: https://lemmy.ml/instances includes Pawb.social and pawb.fun, they’re also federated with instances that host furry communities.
Which furry instances are you talking about?
Yiffit.net, ani.social, and lemmynsfw.com. Those are the main defederations that I think are a little harsh.
Aside from those, most of the other blocked instances are pretty egregious (mostly pedophilia and alt-right) and SJW has blocked many of the same ones.
The only major server with less defederation is Lemm.ee.
Lemm.ee is pretty sweet and well run. Ml and ee are superior to world IMHO.
Lemme.ee is great, lemmy.ml is toxic.
Never seen evidence of that…
Yeah, I’m sure you haven’t.
Care to explain…
shhhhh
Aren’t all three of those used for porn
Idk about ani.social but the other two are. Ani.social has a general anime discussion community that was created as a replacement for the anime community on lemmy.ml and has rapidly surpassed it in activity. You’re not allowed to link !anime@ani.social on lemmy.ml either.
Lemmy.ml admins would argue they host loli/pedo content, but ani.social would argue it’s just mainstream anime content and it’s part of the genre. I don’t really know more than that, but I think it’s a bit unfair to describe the whole ani.social server as being used for porn.
ani social was anime related, but the admins banned it because they dont really like anime and just tag reasons for censorship as loli, without evidence of it. I dont even actively contribute to the anime community, but was the driving reason why i moved from ml to zip. didnt want to have to deal with unsubstantial censorship with an actual valid reason.
On the other hand, I really would not be surprised if they did have banworthy content on there.
im not doubting the possibility, but not to even provide evidence to the servers admins is a red flag on pushing the ml dev/admins agendas without being transparent about it.
without a level of transparency, the same reason can be used to unjustfully ban anything.
And their agenda is… hating anime?
we don’t. i know the anime community on the internet doesn’t have a good reputation but it’s different here. @hitagi@ani.social makes sure of that.
Oh cool
Oh yeah, I forgot .world allows porn instances.
I think it was specifically Yiffit.
Hi, here’s your pretty much useless furry check.
Double meaning entirely intentional, because funny.
lemmy ml de-federates with communites and instances without even a reason, not to say that their moderations actions weren’t questionable in the past and present.