I’m looking at getting myself a new laptop to replace my Dell Inspiron. I’ll be using it for some on the go video editing.
I watch TheLinuxExperiment and he seems happy enough with Tuxedo Laptops. I was looking at the TUXEDO Stellaris 16 - Gen5 - AMD but I’m open to other recommendations.
Perhaps check out https://frame.work
If I remember correctly the shipping was really high when shipping to the EU. Might be different now, I’ll take a look again.
That’s good to know, thank you!
I live in a country where Framework doesn’t officially ship. I asked them if I could buy and pay for shipping out here in the sticks, as a special order.
Framework’s answer was a hard no.
I kept telling them “What part of TAKE MY MONEY I DON’T CARE ABOUT THE COST OF SHIPPING don’t you understand? I want to buy a laptop from you, I’m telling you to wave the warranty and I’ll pay for shipping no matter how expensive, and you refuse???”
But they refused.
So removed Framework, sadly.
As for Linus Sebastian investing in their company, that one I didn’t know. That doesn’t make me all warm and fuzzy because, I don’t know why, Linus is one of the most phenomenally irritating Youtuber in Youtubeland. I can’t stand listening to the man.
I know it’s totally subjective, he’s really pro in what he does and I have nothing against him, but it’s visceral: I can’t stand the sight of him. His investing in Framework makes me want a Framework laptop less - although I fully admit it’s not rational at all.
Sounds like you don’t know how international trade works. A company like Framework can’t ship to countries they don’t normally ship to not because of cost but because of taxes, embargoes, laws, tariffs, and more. It isn’t just about cost, it is about complying with laws. The countries they ship to they already know the laws. Any new county has to go through a long and painful process of learning local laws to make sure you are in compliance.
I’m privileged as an American to get almost everything I want, I get that, but you can’t blame a company for choosing to spend its legal resources where they are most impactful.
Bullremoved. I asked them to take my payment and throw a laptop in the mail like some ordinary shmuck I would have bought a laptop privately from. I live in a Scandinavian country, not in Mumbo-Jumbo land. The parcel will arrive. I’ll take care of import duties and everything: all they have to do is package the laptop, put a sticker with my address on it, drive to the post office and forget about it. I even offered to pay them extra for the aggravation. They refused.
It’s not about the money, it’s about the legal process
If you want one that badly buy a new unopened one on eBay
One could use https://mailboxde.com. I don’t have personal experience with them, but they seem to insure packages up to 1000EUR.
I think I’ll give this option a shot once I manage to offload a few existing computers…
edit Well, perhaps not. Mailboxde says that they support shipping only inside EU.
I live in a country where Framework doesn’t officially ship.
Same situation here. I’ve been wondering what’s so difficult about it.
Nah Im not giving a cent to Linus Sebastian until he releases the sexual harassment investigation results he lied about releasing.
Linus from LTT is not behind the Framework company/products: https://frame.work/gb/en/about
He may have done a video about them, but that’s about it.
Linus is an investor in the framework company: Source on the framework forums that links to the video on youtube
spoiler
Why not directly link to the video? Because I don’t want to! :P
Ironically im still downvoted despite you clearing this up… sigh
Unfortunately, in general, people tend to just read, vote, and then forget about it without checking back: that’s why I always try to add some source or ways to verify what I post.
And - in this specific case - probably some people just like LTT, I assume.
Huh. Thank you very much for clearing that up - I don’t really watch LTT anymore (not really for a long time, even before the whole i n c i d e n t) so it’s great to have some perspective.
Shame, really.
Oh, that was news to me.
I think they are great. Yes, they are a little expensive, but I am really happy with mine, and I’ve heard only good things about the Stellaris from a friend who owns one.
Have you compared them to Framework? That’s what I would probably go for 8f I’d need to buy a laptop
I haven’t looked at them recently, definitely need to give them another look.
I like the company and their commitment, but I would still not recommend them (I have two Tuxedo laptops myself and see others from my colleagues): all I saw were loud. Most cannot run completely without fan active, none were able to keep the fan quiet if you put even a little bit load on it. If you put REAL load on it you go deaf.
I would really like them to be perfect, but all I’ve seen disappointed me, unfortunately. And I am not sure I would take that gamble again when I replace my current one.
I bought a Polaris 15 last year and have no problems with it. The combination of the iGPU from AMD and the dGPU works out of the box and the I/O is fast enough for me.
Btw. I use arch on it as daily driver.
I’ve got a Pulse 15 for a few years now and I’m very happy with it. The keyboard is not the best, but I can live with that.
The Pulse is based on some Clevo machine, you might want to look at what the Stellaris is based on to find more reviews.
Looks good to me. Great specs and the price seems fine for what you’re getting too. If there’s no common issues people are having, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with this Laptop.
I have an older one and I love it. Never has given me issues, is fast, with lots of RAM, and it was cheap back them. Probably now it’s more expensive, but it’s difficult to find AMD laptops and they are the only linux laptop vendors with AMD (that I found).
Definitely would recommend over removed like Dell or other linux laptop vendors that only have NVIDIA.
Keep in mind TheLinuxExperiment is sponsored by Tuxedo, so don’t take his opinion too seriously.
You can never know and it’s better to be careful, but he’s really careful with his sponsors from what I know.
He talks a lot about his sponsor selection in his Patreoncast and he seems picky about it. But again, it could just be marketing lies.
Still, I’d want to be able to trust his choices😅
That’s why I thought I’d ask here as well.
I bought InfinityBook Pro 14.
This is perfect laptop for me, besides one thing that my unit has something bad with touchpad, randomly dropping percision which is super annoying as it mess with my muscle memory a couple of times a day.I have send it to Tuxedo for touchpad replacement, then motherboard replacement… still the same issue, no idea what is happening. Maybe something with connectors, maybe they haven’t actually replaced anything.
Other than the touchpad on my unit, it would be perfect in terms of practical aspects.I have one, the fan is active a bit too often and my battery became slightly bloated after 2 years of ownership. I did have it plugged in and didn’t use the plugged in battery mode, because I didn’t know about it, so maybe that was the issue. They did send me a new battery free of charge and I replaced it, so that was a good customer support experience. I general, I would recommend them.
Thinkpad gang
edit: NVM on-the-go video editing
My last few laptops have been Tuxedo. Can heartily recommend. The tux key instead of the windows logo is a very nice touch. The first ones were 13", and their tiny fans could be rather loud during normal operation, but now I have a 15" and it’s a dream.
I’m currently sitting with an Aura 15 Gen 2, and I’m definitely happy with it.
I do wish they’d get their firmware onto LVFS, but that’s about my main complaint.Buy a thinkpad. You can customize them on Lenovos website and save money by removing the operating system etc.
They used to be good. Are they still worth it?
I love my T16 gen1. The P16 is more upgradable but also much more expensive. But basically yeah, you just have to pick the right model and specs.
what’s replaceable on them?
Most parts are replaceable, but I think at most only RAM and SSD are upgradable on the newer models. It’s truly disgusting that that’s become a feature and not the bare minimum.
On the T16 I have one soldered RAM slot and one replaceable. Of course the SSD can be upgraded too.
The P16 (not the P16s which is just a T16) has four upgradable RAM slots and two slots for SSD.
So that’s not crazy amounts of upgradability but it’s something.
I actually got a Legion Pro 5 instead because it’s a lot cheaper but still has 2 upgradable RAM slots and two SSD slots. My only complaint is that the keyboard is less stable than on a thinkpad and it looks like a gaming laptop.
Someday I’ll get a P16 though… or else one of those Eurocom laptops, if only they had 16:10 screens and nice keyboards.
They are okay, not nearly as robust as before.
That’s what I did.
On their site you can order a fully customized machine and they’ll even install Linux for you.
I ordered a full AMD laptop with a lot more RAM by saving the Windows tax.
They are solid machines. I just got a Thinkpad P1 Gen 6 from work (1,8kg with a friggin 880 gram 230 Watt power supply that I will not have to carry around, fortunately) and it is great.
