Bcachefs lead developer Kent Overstreet published a Patreon post this evening entitled “Trouble in the kernel” where he explained:
"TLDR: the future of bcachefs in the kernel is uncertain, and lots of things aren’t looking good.
Linus has said he isn’t accepting my 6.13 pull request, per “an open issue with the CoC board”, and at this point I have no idea what’s going on with the CoC board. I, for my part, have felt for quite some time that there are issues about our culture and the way we do work that need to be raised, and that hasn’t been going anywhere - hence this post."
It appears that the source of this violation can be found in this Linux kernel mailing list thread.
Perhaps Kent could maybe follow the contributing guidelines instead of being an obstinate child???
guidelines are for the sheeple
Seems Overstreet is just pissy that he can’t talk to people on the kernel mailing list like it’s 2005 anymore. “Get the removed out of here with this removed,” indeed.
He’s also giving more material to the CoC board by posting this. He’s free to do it but it’s not helping.
I wish he would avoid commenting and stay away from the drama, until he hears from the board if there’s any complaint and what it is.
Get your head examined. And get the removed out of here with this removed.
Yes, language like this is clearly unacceptable in a productive discussion.
Offtopic, but this reminded me that the Linux kernel has a CoC. Aren’t the recent comments by Linus on the removal of russian maintainers, where he called several kernel developers paid actors, a CoC violation as well? Or have these comments w.r.t. to the CoC already been discussed?
And the other dude calling him insane is okay by comparison?
Whoa strawman there. No it’s not.
Are you a teacher by any chance? Sounds like school justice where the one provoking is always innocent.
Almost universally, any time there’s a power vacuum (whether in the first larger-than-tribes societies, or in societies where state power has become weak), the first authority figures that fill the power vacuum are dicks
- Main authority on bcachefs
wielding real power, in ways that feel quite uncomfortable.
Yes, it’s called feeling guilty about others calling out your attitude. Most people who aren’t power seeking assholes experience that feeling regularly and have learned to deal with it.
Couples therapists say they can tell within a few minutes if a couple is worth working with or not: if it’s anger they’re displaying, then that’s something that can be worked through. If it’s dismissiveness, all hope is lost.
Imagine getting told by a couples therapist that they can’t see your relationship working out… And then you go on a big rant saying how you should still be together?
On the quotes: these are just, like, your opinons, man.
Imagine getting told by a couples therapist that they can’t see your relationship working out… And then you go on a big rant saying how you should still be together?
Honestly, if someone has to go to couples therapy, they’re already at a point where their judgement is written off.
so next we can expect a tirade from Hans Reiser now that ReiserFS was deleted from the kernel?
Did you literally not even read your own link?
Overstreet needs to hire someone to do all of his communications + public relations + LKML patches/pull requests. The behavior is going to get one of the most exciting filesystems in a long time yanked & momentum die just from the we he handles conflict.
A little off-topic: anyone else read this as “BCA Chefs”, initially?
Every single time. I know how I’m supposed to read it, I know what it means and where it comes from, but I physically cannot read it any other way.
Worst name ever.
I heard on cachyos forums that the maintainer of bcachefs can be quirky.
quirky
From the little I’ve been reading Kent Overstreet just sounds like an incredibly arrogant developer with some talent.
It reeks of someone whose opinion of themselves exceeds their ability.
I think I worded it differently.
Finally, a cure for insomnia. Thanks, I hate it!
The true solution to this is that CoC board needs to be abolished, and just get things working. Why’s that so difficult?
Really can’t wait for the coc board to self destruct at this rate so we can get a better alternative to Linux already.
Get your head examined. And get the removed out of here with that removed
Get your head examined and enjoy your dying kernel. Adding politics that inherently go against foss philosophy is a bad idea, if you think you want to stay foss.
Are we still talking about the OP? The idea that it’s wrong to curse someone out because you disagree with their take is not “politics that inherently goes against FOSS philosophy.” Foss grows faster when more people get involved and contribute. If the most vocal contributors treat everyone they disagree with like removed, they will demoralize their community and make others stop wanting to contribute. That kills projects.
